The Apostles – Centro Iberico, Westbourne Park, London, W11- 13/08/82

Burn The Witch / Proletarian Autonomy / Fucking Queer / Hello Black Flag / Alien Asian / 1985

Rough snippets of this gig by the Apostles. This gig also featured Conflict (recorded the live 7″ on Xntrix Records at this gig), The Omega Tribe, Riot Clone, and Icons Of Filth. The Apostles actually had three different drummers this gig (not playing at the same time!), Martin Smith, Kev Bass and Dan Colley. The rest of the line up was Andy Martin, Dave Fanning and John Soares. This recording is pretty rough and cut up, but thanks to Chris Low for the lend of it anyway and for the photograph of Andy Martin performing at the gig.

Official Apostles Site

  1. luggy
    February 11, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Hey Liz, nice to see you’re out there in cyberspace, any idea how Asa is these days. He was staying down the road from me about 3 years ago but disappeared again (back to Portugal?).

  2. lizzy
    February 12, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Hi Luggy
    Good to hear from you too.
    I lost touch with Asa some years ago – his parents had forwarded a letter from me and we wrote for a while, but you know how it is – I’m rubbish at keeping in touch. I’m surprised he moved back to London at all.

  3. luggy
    February 12, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Asa was having a slight mid-life crisis & was staying with mates while deciding what to do next. Hope he’s happy now, wherever he is.

  4. lizzy
    February 13, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    I hope he is happy too. Maybe you have spurred me on to try and contact him. for some time i enjoyed same (as then) ideals – i got good with an axe, no water, no leccie, lived in bender or caravan for a while in france and thought it was great to harden meself in such a way but must admit i never saw many people and it got a bit secluded and insular and paranoid and lonely and hey like yer wellies, head-to-toe mac, straggly hair like become pointed, stuck, like the stamps i desire to purchase at the local post office. Got a great Lu-lu (pyrenean mountain) dog out of it though. Best friend.

  5. danmac
    February 14, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    just stickin me head over the parapet to say happy valentines to y’all. great site documenting a large slice of my teenage life…

    people updates:

    asa’s well – been travellin all over – spent a lot of time sellin jewellery on a beach in portugal – shortly headin off to the states – contact me at exile underscore events at yahoo dot co dot uk for contact details

    seamus ex class war – runs a vintage guitar shop in norwich

    animal – up to all sorts as per – works for camden council, got a prize for gettin the highest mark in the country for the second year of his law degree at birkbeck and has been writing books, plays etc.

    me – i’m sortin out the health of peckham and if you read the papers you’ll know i’m doin a fantastic job.

    laters potaters – keep on doin it…

  6. Pavlik
    February 26, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    I’d forgotten all about Asa.
    Another kitchen table regular at Lawford Rd.

    Is there any way of subscribing to these threads?…….. being somewhat cyberspace-challenged myself.

  7. gerard
    February 26, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Hi Pavlik – just for you, there is now!

  8. jon.6 (formerly known as JFB)
    jon.6 (formerly known as JFB)
    February 27, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    looking forward to hearing this… i was also at the gig (on my 19th birthday) mainly for the Apostles as i’d overdosed on conflict with Hagar The Womb gigs supporting them… seem to remember this being an excellent Apostles set which the audio memory jog may well dash totally… who knows…

  9. Pavlik
    February 29, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    Nice one Gerard. You guys really are on the ball arent you.
    Only took you four hours to fill that request.
    *Wonders what I should ask for next?*

    Sean, the more I look at your old pictures, the more I remember seeing you about. Were you mates with Martin or is that me mixing up my memories?

  10. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    February 29, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    jon.6 formally known as Jon Fat Beast soundguy to Chats Palace, Bull and Gate and other slimey dives? Or am I wrong?

  11. Wildebeest
    February 29, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    JFB was not John Fat Beast, he’s actually Jon from Bromley, the one man Bromley Contingent. Also it’s Bromley by Bow, not the Billy Idol Bromley. Jon used to hang at Wapping and the Centro and used to ride the train in from Hornchurch with Cold War etc. He used to play guitar in the Screaming Babies with Fred Previous and was an all around solid guy. John Fat Beast is another story, also a great guy and good friend of mine and Sean’s and solid in a different way. The Faith no More live DVD ‘You fat bastards’ was named after Jon Fat Beast who was the warm up guy for the openers at that show ‘Carter USM’.

  12. sean
    February 29, 2008 at 6:51 pm

    Funny, I was looking for fat beast on the web yesterday, all I could find was U tubes of carterUSM intros. Where is he now? He owes me £30 from 20 years ago……..

    Pavlik, which martin? Martin weird beard ginger Ryan? He who is now “manners” on my space?

  13. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    February 29, 2008 at 6:53 pm

    £30 twenty years ago would be about £120 nowadays.

  14. jon.6 (formerly known as JFB)
    jon.6 (formerly known as JFB)
    February 29, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    erm…. i’ve put on a few pounds since the A Centre days, but never quite managed the fat beast look…
    I have still never been to Bromley, despite the name. I got the name on the tube on the way back from Wapping one Sunday (can’t really remember why)…

    i also played lead guitar for Hagar The Womb for about the first year of their existence before leaving after getting married and moving to milton keynes (where i ALMOST formed a band with ex- Part1 members, but didn’t)

    p.s. should’ve stuck with the memory of the Apostles gig as it didn’t sound so great 🙂

  15. Pavlik
    February 29, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    Yea weird beard (two mohawks) martin.
    He lived in the first house we squatted and was a great laugh.
    I’ve loved seeing all the later pics of him on here.

  16. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    March 1, 2008 at 9:51 am

    JFB Early photos of Hagar on page 6 of puppies and thier friends in photo gallery. Re: Bromley by Bow, your not missing anything by not visiting there!

  17. Pavlik
    March 1, 2008 at 11:41 am

    I remember that rudimenatry peni jacket

  18. jon.6 (formerly known as JFB)
    jon.6 (formerly known as JFB)
    March 1, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    ok, so Bromley-By-Bow is off my list of places to see before you die.
    that’s me on the right in the red t-shirt and the sparlky backdrop makes me think it was the pied bull. probably have this one on tape up in the loft tho it may be best left there 🙂

  19. jon.6
    July 4, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    hi fred
    even thru the years of therapy i’ve still not managed to forget the best bass player the world has known 🙂
    if you want to catch up, mail me in the outside world
    jon.6 / (JFB)

  20. jon fat beast
    jon fat beast
    January 24, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    message to sean, about the thirty quid, I am sorry if I owe I will pay… I am still just alive and also remember Jon6 fondly. God Told Me To Do It.

  21. John no last name
    John no last name
    January 26, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Wait Jon Fat Beast is giving out money? Well then in that case I seem to remember him owing me …. Hi Jon, it’s great to see you posting on here. I haven’t seen you since I ran into you in New York when you were on tour with Carter USM getting the whole crowd to yell “You a fat bastard”. Which for all you trivia buffs. The Faith no More “You fat bastards” live in Brixton is in fact a homage to the aforementioned Jon Fat Beast. To anyone who didn’t/doesn’t know him Jon did more to promote music than just about anyone on here and is an all around great guy helped make the careers of a ton of bands over the years. For some inexplicable reason he also put up with more bullshit from Sean and Myself than he really should of.
    I definitely have great memories of hanging out with Jon, Jonesey from East-Enders and all the rest of the crew at the Timebox. Good times and good to see you posting on here. As for the 30 quid? if I was you I might just remind Sean about the quality of some of those t-shirts he was selling back in the day, enough to make a bootlegger selling live tapes blush.

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