Crass / Flux Of Pink Indians / No Defences / D & V – Bingo Hall – Islington – 04/03/84

Alastair Ponts cassette

No Defences / D & V Bingo Hall 1984

Crass Bingo Hall 1984

Rod Waltons cassette

Flux Of Pink Indians Bingo Hall 1984

Crass Bingo Hall 1984

Uploaded today is some audio of a night at the squatted Bingo Hall in Islington in 1984. This venue for those who might not know is now called ‘The Garage’ and has been a mainstay on the London gigging circuit for decades. Prior to this transformation into an ‘A’ list venue for bands from all over the UK and the world, the Bingo Hall was a run down building which housed folk who had left the Peace Centre in Rosebery Avenue which was also based in Islington. The Bingo Hall and the Peace Centre were close enough but still required a sturdy walk from one end of Upper Street all the way down to the other end of that main Islington thoroughfare, and then some!

On this evening in March Crass performed with Flux Of Pink Indians, Annie Anxiety, D&V and No Defences. Only Crass, No Defences and D&V sets were recorded for this audio you may now download. If I ever get hold of audio for Flux Of Pink Indians and Annie Anxiety I will add it to this post sometime in the future. The audio itself is of a reasonable quality, with a small amount of chatter now and again, I assume between Al and Giles who were holding the cassette recorder on the night.

March 1984 also saw the second ‘Stop The City’ protest so in light of that event I have added the Freedom newspaper article from May 1984 reporting on that demonstration along with some remarkable and beautiful photographs from the previous ‘Stop The City’ protest held in September 1983. The photographer is known to me only as Camera Obscura (from the Flikr page). If the photographer ever see’s this post then please let me know who to properly credit for the use of these wonderful photographs.

Thanks to all the people who have contributed in some way to this KYPP post either by writing out snippets of their memories or supplying photographs, the guilty parties are named on the post below.

The Bingo Hall photographs are from Mick Lugworms collection, the Crass photographs taken at Bingo Hall are courtesy of Jim Wafford.

Thanks to Alastair Pont who specifically searched me out at a Mob gig so he could supply the cassette so that I could place up the audio onto this post without whom etc etc.

Extra thanks to Rod Wolton who supplied me with the Flux Of Pink Indians performance on a cassette that he recorded at the gig. This cassette also had the Crass performance recorded on the other side so I placed that audio up as well so browsers that are interested could compare and keep their favourite version.

The chalk board advertising the gig standing outside the venue with the information:

Bar 1 – Adam And The Antz / X Ray Spexs

Bar 2 – Motorhead / Discharge

Bar 3 – Crass (in tiny letters)

…was partly fuelled by the frustration some of us felt at the fact that Crass were refusing to release any of the funds raised on record sales to finance another Autonomy centre.

Previous to this gig I had come into possession of a cornflakes box full of blues. Added to the rough cider that Jaffa and Chris ran up from Bristol on a weekly basis (served in milk bottles at the bar) I was in no state to concentrate on the bands.

I do remember the accidental dropping of a heavy table on Penny’s foot…twice!

Sean Eatshit

Crass, No Defences, D&V at the Bingo Hall, Islington March 1984 recorded on a shitty little handheld tape recorder by (Big) Giles who eventually moved to Bristol with Spikey Pete with me doing occasional tape recorder holding duties.

As I remember it Flux (wearing beachwear & sunglasses) and Annie Anxiety also played great sets that night but we only had one tape so we got what we got. Forty five minutes of No Defences and D&V, then forty five minutes of Crass.

This was a great night, where you come away from it energised and restored, with the complex atmosphere that permeated the whole culture. Genuinely violent, angry, aggressive, edgy, confrontational, chaotic, but in equal measure, friendly, warm, calm, peaceful and life affirming. Fuck yeah!

Alastair Pont

Having got bored of the vegan versus vegetarian arguments and problems caused by around thirty people living together at the Peace Centre in Rosebery Avenue, as well as dealing with band members egos whilst putting on gigs there, we had a break of a few months before a few of us decided to get another anarchist squat centre together.

I can’t remember who spotted the Bingo Hall first but Andy Palmer from Crass was the first person to crack it via a basement tunnel from the back. Crass wanted to do a squat gig but didn’t have the time or inclination to get heavily involved with it.

I found out that Murphy Builders owned the building along with a lot of derelict buildings and land at the bottom of Holloway Road and on the west side of Highbury Fields. They must have had some big development plans for the area that never came to fruition.

When we actually squatted the place, we found ourselves under siege from gangs of burly builders for the first few days. Thankfully we had secured the building well and the scrotes didn’t manage to force their way in. The only access during this period was via a ladder from a first floor window, got some funny looks from people waiting at the bus stop outside when a ladder suddenly appeared next to them.

Having got a bit sick of dealing with bands, we mostly used the building as a bar with West Country scrumpy served in milk bottles. I didn’t have too much to do with the organising of the actual Crass gig apart from helping on the door and helping to write the piss-taking sign on the blackboard outside.

Most of my mates were upstairs getting pissed at the scrumpy bar there, rather than watching the gig.

The Bingo Hall eventually got evicted but not before the blokes from the Burn It Down Ballroom tatted it for useful stuff to use at their various squatted venues.

Mick Lugworm

The only real memory I have of that evening was the near-violent argument outside which developed between the vegetarians and the vegans. I don’t think I’d ever seen such a stupid expression of bigotry. Apart from that, I seem to remember that the carpet inside was greasy, dark and stinking of the sort of things one doesn’t want to be thinking of. Love, blessings and joy.

Penny Rimbaud

I also recorded Crass at the Bingo Hall along with Flux the tapes are somewhere in my loft but good quality recorded on a Sony pro tape recorder. The gig was in March if my memory serves me. There was quite a few Ipswich boys who went to that gig and we had all stayed in London and went to a Conflict gig at the Electric Ballroom the night before. We then slept at Liverpool Street train station before being moved on to sleep in the Bank tube station. The following day we went to the science museum to try and grab a few hours kip in the warmth! We only really got to know about the gig originally because our old drummer, from our band Conflict Of Nations, got a flyer about it from an Action Pact gig at the 100 Club and it had the Dial House phone number on it. The Crass answer machine message just said “we’re playing the Bingo Hall tomorrow” but no other details; this answer phone message was followed by some laughter which was odd!

There were loads of strange things that happened that weekend for example a guy at Liverpool Street woke Lee H up and got his cock out and said “do you want this”?

We got to the Bingo Hall early, paid a donation to get in and a smiley face was drawn on our hands to confirm the payment. Because we were there early we happened to notice Phil Free from Crass getting a tramp, who we assume was outside, no doubt nearby, into the venue and then witnessed members of Crass offering this man some fresh hot tea and some food which was nice.

Strange I can remember so much about that glorious weekend.

Rod Wolton

Flux Of Pink Indians were performing material from ‘Fucking Cunts Treat Us Like Pricks’ around the country, around this time and some people had the idea in their heads that we were rock stars. We decided to perform at the Bingo Hall squat in full beach wear, cheekily to add fuel to the Flux ‘rock star’ vibe that was evident around that time. I do not think the audience that night really got the joke though!

Unbelievably we were called on for an encore after our set. Flux decided to perform in only underpants for the encore. Lou who had previously been a member of D.I.R.T decided against this stance as she was uncomfortable with the idea, quite obviously really!

Martin Flux

My main memory is that I went with my girlfriend at the time who didn’t like Crass much (or at all for that matter to say the least…) I persuaded her to go by telling her that it was only a pound to get in, and that if Bob Dylan, who she was a big fan of, ever played in the UK, I would take her along and pay for the tickets. I thought it was pretty unlikely that he ever would, so thought I’d done alright with this deal. However a couple of months later he DID play at Wembley Stadium, and she held me to my word. I had to sit through the one of the most boring evenings of my life whilst Bob, Santana and UB40 performed their stuff and what’s more had to shell out about £40 quid (when that was a lot of money!) for the privilege. That will learn me.

I had witnessed Crass several times over the years and do not recall too much about the actual performances at the Bingo Hall sadly.

Graham Burnett

‘For your future, for our future, STOP NOW’ (Anon)

‘The City is the place where your money from taxes, savings and pension funds is invested, and you have no control over them’ (Islington Action Group)

‘We believe it’s time to put a stop to the suffering of millions of people around the world, suffering created by the same economic system that runs our lives. The City of London is at the heart of all this, it is the logical place for our protest’ (Leicester Green Affinity Group)

‘Women not only serve the boss at work, they also serve their husbands and children at home as cooks and cleaners. Not only do women work harder, we get no pay for half the work [housework]’ (Stop the City Women’s Group)

‘What we are trying to do is point out the grim reality that lies behind the mask of normal daily life’ (Grays Anarchist Group)

‘Ten ways to wreck the micro-computer in your office:- 1. Pour coffee ( with salt instead of sugar in it) into the keyboard to gum up the works…’ (Free London)

‘Dear fellow commuter,…on an average commuter train, about 20 people are directly involved with producing goods for military use’ (anon)

‘What’s going on? As you walk through the City area today you may see quite a few people involved in various forms of action aimed at exposing the nature of London’s financial district. Do not be afraid of these people, they could be your friends… As we listen to EMI records, people in foreign lands listen to EMI weapons guidance systems… People need each other, not money!’ (anon)

‘We are claimants, and as claimants we are forced to live in misery and poverty because of the decisions made behind the doors of these institutions. It’s not jobs we demand…but the right to a decent life for everyone.’ (Claimants Action Nottingham)

‘In countries where people used to grow their own food, they are now paid minimal wages to produce non-edible cash crops for western companies… if dissatisfaction with this system causes social unrest, the west sells the same countries arms with which to restore law and order. ’ (LSE CND)

‘I am here today because… I want everyone in the world to be happy… because they are stealing my life away and selling it back at a profit… because a terrified animal dies unnecessarily every 6 seconds… because everything has been appropriated and we want it back… because they are giving the children guns and violence and destroying their innocence… ’ (Mike, Brambles Farm Peace Camp)

‘Look at this fucking world, it’s not ours no more. It belongs to rich fascist scum who, unless they are stopped, are gonna blow it to shit. The time has come to stop holding back… No longer will we march ‘peacefully’ to Hyde Park. It’s banks what fund war, not parks!’ (Paul)

‘I, the Commissioner of Police for the City of London, by virtue of the powers conferred upon me by Section 22 of the City of London Police Act, 1839, as amended by Section 8 of the City of London (Various Powers) Act, 1956 for the purpose of keeping order order and preventing obstruction of the thoroughfares in the immediate neighbourhood of the Mansion House and Guildhall of the said City, the Royal Exchange, the Bank of England, the General Post Office and other places of public resort within the said City and liberties on the 29th March, 1984… hereby direct Constables on the on the 29th March, 1984 in the said thoroughfares:

1. To prevent the gathering together of persons within a group

2. To disperse any group of persons which may gather together.

3. To direct any person found loitering to move.

4. To prevent any procession.

5. To prevent the deposit or any refuse, litter or other object.

6. To secure the removal of any refuse, litter or other object by the person the Constable has reason to believe is responsible for the deposit thereof.

7. To prevent the making of any unnecessary noise which the Constable has reason to believe causes, or contributes towards, disturbance of the peace.

Dated this 26th a day March 1984, The Commissioner of Police for the City of London’

‘You failed totally!’ (Stop The City)

Last September, after 6 months of discussions and preparations around the country growing out of the actions against military bases, about 1,500 people came to Stop the City of London in protest against wars and arms trade profits. The success of that day in terms of communicating to workers, disrupting business, and creating a determined and festive event encouraged many others to join in preparations for another protest — on the day profits for the whole year were symbolically to be counted up – March 29th 1984.

Having been in the City, seen how it works, how all companies and banks are interlinked, it was decided this time to make a general protest against the profit system. This would be a chance for everyone involved in trying to change things – opposing the exploitation of women, of nature, of animals, opposing wars, repression and poverty, and the power of money over us – to come together on this appropriate day and challenge the financial heart of the country.

As a network grew, everyone encouraged each other to create the kind of day they wished, to protest about the things they felt most strongly about and in the way they wanted. A truly decentralised yet well co-ordinated attempt to Stop the City and reclaim it for people.

The week before, on March 22nd, there were local protests in financial centres of 7 or 8 towns with pickets, occupations, leafleting, graffiti, processions and music.

On the 29th, up to 3,000 people took part together in London and this is an attempt to get down on paper some of the amazing and diverse activities…

Stopping the City

7 – 8am, First Aid, creche and assembly points set up. Police divert all lorries from City. 30 cyclists set off to do a very slow tour of the streets and stop the traffic. Balcony of arms trading company in Holborn occupied by London Peace Action, banners and balloons.

8 – 9am, Green CND protests at Electricity Board HQ all day. St Paul’s packed already, many go to Bank area. People try to block roads. March down Cannon Street, Threadneedle Street blocked. Radio reports. People at Stock Exchange forced to move on. Women’s action at Bank of England to protest about unpaid domestic exploitation foiled by police — continue to leaflet nearby. Many groups all over City, leafleting, dressed up, with placards, puppets, games, etc.

9 – 10am, 500 people at Royal Exchange. Police try to split people up. Leafleting and smoke flare in Bank tube station. 150 people disrupt Leadenhall meat market against animal exploitation. People continue to assemble at Bank – up to 1,000 – police try to block everyone in and keep traffic moving. Hundreds of cars begin to be quietly immobilised in car parks (all day). Free vegan food distributed for hours at St Paul’s. Many locks glued up throughout the day.

10 – 11 am, The crowd who’d taken over the front of the Royal Exchange resist police efforts to force people out, wooden barrier collapses. People then hemmed in, police using horses. Lots of noise. Everywhere workers look from windows. Group go to do Fleet Street action — too many police. Spirits still high everywhere despite police violence. Lots of graffiti. Anti-nuclear street theatre at Nat West Tower. People enter banks to open and close accounts. A couple of groups walk back and forth over zebra crossings.

11 – 12 am, American, Russian and British flags burned at Bank. 3-400 march around fur trade area. 100 people break out of police cordon at Royal Exchange and attack windows of financial institutions — Barclays, Navigation House, Nat West and 30 other places. Car overturned as barricade and constant moving means police unable to stop action. Smoke flares, paint thrown etc. Securicor van too heavy to turn over, Roll Royce which tries to run someone over is wrecked. Still hundreds at St Paul’s, and others running excitedly around (for fun!). Leafleting at Bank tube station continues.

12 – 1pm, Anti-apartheid picket of Barclays forced to move, so visit nearby branches. Jugglers, singers, puppeteers also threatened and police try to clear Bank again. Traffic blocked. Quiet for a while. A group take 2,000 leaflets to Greater London Council ‘democracy day’ march. Evening Standard quotes police as being ‘worried about possible link-up’. Creche going well (8 kids). Our own legal back-up people begin to get busy. 30 people ‘die-in’ on roads at St Paul’s. Cacophony of noise everywhere on the hour. Some of large crowd on steps of Mansion House resist mass arrests. Statues, especially military ones, ‘decorated’.

1 – 2 pm, Claimants group burn UB40 identity cards at Bank. 30 women visit Fleet Street, raid Boots the Chemist and throw tampons in the street to protest at their ‘luxury item’ VAT classification. Protest outside the Sun also. People again break free from police cordon at Bank, resist their violence and damage bank property – Norwich Union, Leeds Permanent and American International. Spikes to stop traffic thrown in road.

2- 3 pm, More rumpus on the hour! 20 cyclists again stop traffic. Mobile carnival stage, with live bands and people following almost reaches Bank from Tower Hill, but seized by police. Over 200 people held in police cells continue their protest and have fun by making noise and causing floods etc. Nat West Tower entered, files ripped up, fire alarms set off. Police bike knocked over. Groups of ‘nuns’ and Stockbrokers’ still leafleting. St Paul’s – face painting, and also ‘God is Dead!’ charge into cathedral. Musical and noisy processions round Royal Exchange. Orange smoke flare set off – thrown back by policewoman who hits another cop. 200 people go to Guildhall but driven back by police – court opened but no-one brought to appear so closes again (later we discover that Princess Alexandra was due to visit at 6pm)

3 – 4 pm, 200 people make human barricade across London Bridge. Traffic stop until police arrive. People begin to congregate at Bank again, spilling into streets all around. Lots of chanting, angry and good humoured at same time! Still many hemmed in. Still groups of singers and leafleters walking around.

4 – 5 pm, 1,500 at Bank. Surges into the street and back. London clearing bank window smashed as movement of crucial ‘City’ cheques is disrupted. Stockbrokers’ messages fouled up. Thousands of workers begin to go home, many watch with interest and amusement what is going on, as at lunchtime. 350 prisoners held in cells, and up to 200 in police vans. Incredibly, despite police violence people still good humoured, but gradually getting worn out.

5 – 6 pm, People hemmed in, but relax, and gradually everyone disperses. 3-400 go to block Whitehall and Ministry of Defence in Central London as protest against Cruise missile convoy movements during previous night and in solidarity with women of Greenham who had blocked its path on the motorway.

It’s impossible to do justice to everyone’s activities. Throughout the day many people were also hanging around, taking photos or watching. For some, this was the first experience of a self-organised protest and so they were unsure of what to do, the need, to come prepared, take initiatives, talk to others, etc. Also many were angry yet intimidated by police violence. But also loads of people wanted to join in and kept asking ‘what’s happening?’, ‘where’s the action?’, and so on. Some came for just an hour or two to show support. Everyone made a contribution in their own way.

What were the achievements?

Well, it was certainly a day people in the City will remember. The machinery of oppression thrives on appearing invincible, unquestioned and eternal, and our protests have begun slowly to break this spell. All day workers looked from windows, stood in doorways and on balconies, or walked unhurriedly about. No-one seemed threatened, some were prejudiced yet many more seemed excited, thoughtful, amused or provoked to think and discuss with colleagues what was happening and why. Some were surprised and angry at police violence which partly aimed to keep workers and protesters apart.

I collected leaflets being distributed by 31 different groups, a dazzling range of opinions and ideas —complemented by graffiti. But there were still many working there who didn’t understand or feel involved. Likewise, many of us benefited from trying to talk to and understand the people there, their attitudes to work, difficulty in challenging their roles and employers.

As for actually disrupting business — while we were there we certainly had some effect. We enticed people away from their jobs and towards the human community in their midst. Traffic, mostly on business, was often stopped or slowed up all day. The front doors of some buildings were closed, some were picketed and those around Bank disrupted for hours. And don’t forget that some phone lines were blocked by those contributing from home or work to the phone blockade.

On two or three occasions, largish groups of people managed to directly damage property of financial institutions, both as a statement of anger and also to make them pay a little for a change. And perhaps the most significant disruption was of the movement of cheques at the end of the day when millions of pounds physically circulates around the area. According to the Times, ‘The banking community struggled to keep money flows moving, despite the unrest. They succeeded – but only just’. ‘Bank balances were £11million below target overnight’.

The aim of creating a festive, human atmosphere was partially successful, despite everything the police did. There was lots of music and noise, clowning, puppets and banners, painted faces, joking and openly expressing our energy and humanity. There was a great deal of solidarity, warmth and respect amongst ourselves despite being strangers and of many differing ideas and groups. This is so important and is a strength which will attract others to think about what we’re saying and doing.

Likewise, the fact that there were no leaders or formal structures, just so many people with initiative, energy and determination to do their best. It is also encouraging to read the 17-page police briefing (which fell out of a back pocket on the day) now widely distributed, to see what their aims were for the 29th. They took the protest very seriously, cancelled all leave in the City force, and all coppers worked at least 12 hours continuously. With the miners strike and blockades, other large demonstrations and Greenham blocking of roads near London, they were at full stretch. London Transport police and even ‘special constabulary’ were brought in. Special powers (1839) for the City were enacted. They clearly understood the aims of the protest, and the range of events that had been planned and publicised. And they made all sorts of-preparations. However, despite their plans, 450 arrests and other violence, they failed.

We showed that we have the determination and the strength, initiative and imagination to make a telling protest, and that if people everywhere only realised their strength, the power of the state could be effectively challenged on a wide scale.

Involving more people

But if we are to learn from our struggles, we have also to look at and overcome our limitations. Most of the people who took part are active in anti-militarist, animal liberation or general libertarian groups, or a part of the large dissatisfied urban unemployed sub-culture…

Yet it was difficult to involve those who went on strike on the same day to defend public services and the GLC, and also striking miners. Likewise, the vast majority of people who feel strongly about some aspects of what’s wrong with the world, still think that joining an organisation (like CND, War on Want, RSPCA or whatever) or voting for the Labour party is the thing to do. Many others would also like a better world but don’t believe people can change things, or are afraid to express their feelings. lt is all these people who need to get together to begin to move against the system.

And there are yet millions more, billions world-wide, working class people who have to struggle where they live and work just to survive, to maintain self-respect. Many don’t relate to political parties or endless protests, yet we need everyone to begin to really stop the systematic industrial destruction and exploitation of our world.

The Stop the City demonstration is one small yet significant step in a developing process of awakening and of real opposition. We are learning as we take part. Many more people have become involved, not only in large scale protests but also in everyday activities, overcoming isolation and gaining confidence. Changing society is not only about collective opposition, it is also about people creating and extending mutual aid, solidarity and libertarian relationships amongst each other — neighbours, work-mates and wherever people meet. If the Stop the City idea contributes to that and to the creation of diverse local initiatives and resistance, it will be worthwhile.

What now?

On the 14th and 15th of April there was a follow-up weekend. On Saturday 60-70 people, many having been arrested, came to discuss court procedures, solidarity, films, look at photos, etc. Anyone who wishes to support those arrested can come to Guildhall Magistrates Court on Friday 11th and 25th May, 10:00am, or send donations to the Bust Fund Network, c/o Housmans, 5 Caledonian Road,London N1. Any other legal enquiries, phone Amanda 01-833 1633. An exciting unedited film was shown and is being turned into a film/video to be made available. Contact Mick 01-278 0075 if you have any additional material.

SEE MICK DUFFIELDS STOP THE CITY VIDEO HERE

The second day was a general discussion about stopping the City, what happened and the future. There was a very constructive and respectful atmosphere, and a general feeling that we had achieved a lot and there was so much more that was possible – not just in the City but everywhere. There will be a week of of protest against financial institutions, and the wars, exploitation and destruction they cause and profit from on September 22nd- 29th, with a general call to Stop the City, Thursday September 27th again. Everyone in the world is invited!

Likewise it was decided to Stop the City on Thursday May 31st also, while the enthusiasm and memories of March are alive. A totally self-organised protest – there won’t be any co-ordination meetings for May 31st, so everyone is encouraged to spread the word, come prepared and do what they think best.

TOGETHER WE CAN CHANGE OUR WORLD

‘Stop the City’ article – Freedom newspaper – May 1984

 

14 comments
  1. luggy
    luggy
    July 9, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Nice to see Bill in the Stop The City pics R.I.P.

  2. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    July 9, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Yes absolutely. Beautiful photographs indeed, especially nice one of Bill. It was this photograph that drew me to the rest of the set originally.

  3. Andy T.
    Andy T.
    July 17, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    I played a ‘short blink and you’ll miss me’ set at this gig too.

    I remember it being a last chance to get the word about and get organised for Stop The City. And a break from the dreaded gestetner at Dial House
    xx

  4. Mick Slaughter
    Mick Slaughter
    August 20, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    I have a good copy of the Flux set from this gig if you are interested

    Mick Slaughter

  5. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    August 21, 2013 at 9:18 am

    Thanks Mick would love to place that up on this post. Were you there? Would you be able to add a line or two about what you remember of the night? Maybe meet outside the old Arsenal football ground for the hand over as I do not mind travelling to South London!

  6. Dan
    Dan
    October 9, 2013 at 1:34 am

    X-Ray Spex in 1984? They split up in 1979.
    Is there any more information about their gig?
    Was it a re-union, or maybe a different lineup?

  7. AL Puppy
    AL Puppy
    October 9, 2013 at 2:54 pm

    Dan- the sign was a joke- X-Ray Specs did not play, neither did Adam and the Ants.

  8. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    October 9, 2013 at 3:05 pm

    Also not performing on the night were Motorhead and Discharge…

  9. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    October 5, 2014 at 12:21 am

    If anyone on this thread is interested, the Flux set has now been added to the post as well as another (yes another) recording of the Crass set. A different recording.

  10. IanW
    IanW
    October 7, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    Cheers, sound quality is a lot better. Always looking for live Crass recordings. Thanks for all previous Crass posts.

  11. Justin
    Justin
    August 12, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    Hello,

    Do you have a list all all Crass live recordings available for trade?

    Many thanks!

    Justin

  12. Youthman
    Youthman
    August 28, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    That is Chris Knowles from Hagar in the second photo, with his fist raised.

    Love Chris, beautiful human being.

  13. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    August 28, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    That is a guy known as Spike Youthman, although absolutely Chris is still a wonderful person…

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