The Apostles – Private Tape – 1983?

The Last Train To Hellsville / A Rebel Without A Conscience / Who Are The Mystery Girls? / D.F / Theme For Yoko Ono / Being Alive / It’s So Easy / Moral Chains

Another Chris Low personal tape, will await details from Chris about (hopefully) dates / personnel performing on the tracks and any other useful info. I will then cut and paste innit. Lots of other Apostles material on this site if you care to search.

Official Apostles Site

Nic Says:
I would date this tape around late Summer 1982, judging by the mix of songs…

‘Last Train to Hellsville’ – probably Flump (of Flump and the Fruitbats, and a fanzine I can’t remember the name of) on vocals. This recording sounds like the one that Larry Peterson put on his ‘A Sudden Surge of Sound’ compilation tape on his Cause for Concern tape label…

‘Rebel without a Conscience’ – Another track featuring Flump (as on the 1st track) which also sounds as if it is from the rehearsal session which appears on the Larry Peterson compilation…

‘Who Are the Mystery Girls?’ – New York Dolls cover demonstrating Dave Fanning’s ‘L.A.M.F. fixation… :) Not as good as Slaughter and the Dogs’ cover…It also sounds as if it is from the rehearsal session which appears on the Larry Peterson compilation…

‘DF’ – a version of an instrumental also titled ‘DF 118′ on other tapes (DF118 is a Codeine-based tablet used for Opiate withdrawal)…Beat by drum machine…

‘Theme for Yoko Ono’ – an instrumental was re-recorded later on one of the early LP’s…Beat by drum machine…

‘Being Alive’ – an instrumental later re-recorded on the early LP’s. A version of this was also recorded as part of the rehearsal sessions which begin this tape…Beat by drum machine…

‘It’s So Easy’ – Back to the live drummer…Another instrumental later re-recorded on vinyl…

‘Moral Chains’ – This song was originally by John Soares’ band Libertarian Youth where it was a much more ‘punky’ songs. This version involves more of the Good Missionaries-inspired freakout feel which characterised the 4th demo…

10 comments
  1. Chris
    Chris
    February 29, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Aha! I think this was originally the other side of that one you put up a wee while ago?

    Think either ‘Flump’ or ‘Martha Moscow’ sings the first two tracks but can’t comment on the others without hearing it. Will get back to you on this ‘un.

  2. Penguin
    Penguin • Post Author •
    February 29, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Other side of this tape posted is Assassins Of Hope at Centro Iberico which will go up shortly.

  3. Nic
    Nic
    March 2, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    I would date this tape around late Summer 1982, judging by the mix of songs…

    ‘Last Train to Hellsville’ – probably Flump (of Flump and the Fruitbats, and a fanzine I can’t remember the name of) on vocals. This recording sounds like the one that Larry Peterson put on his ‘A Sudden Surge of Sound’ compilation tape on his Cause for Concern tape label…

    ‘Rebel without a Conscience’ – Another track featuring Flump (as on the 1st track) which also sounds as if it is from the rehearsal session which appears on the Larry Peterson compilation…

    ‘Who Are the Mystery Girls?’ – New York Dolls cover demonstrating Dave Fanning’s ‘L.A.M.F. fixation… 🙂 Not as good as Slaughter and the Dogs’ cover…It also sounds as if it is from the rehearsal session which appears on the Larry Peterson compilation…

    ‘DF’ – a version of an instrumental also titled ‘DF 118’ on other tapes (DF118 is a Codeine-based tablet used for Opiate withdrawal)…Beat by drum machine…

    ‘Theme for Yoko Ono’ – an instrumental was re-recorded later on one of the early LP’s…Beat by drum machine…

    ‘Being Alive’ – an instrumental later re-recorded on the early LP’s. A version of this was also recorded as part of the rehearsal sessions which begin this tape…Beat by drum machine…

    ‘It’s So Easy’ – Back to the live drummer…Another instrumental later re-recorded on vinyl…

    ‘Moral Chains’ – This song was originally by John Soares’ band Libertarian Youth where it was a much more ‘punky’ songs. This version involves more of the Good Missionaries-inspired freakout feel which characterised the 4th demo…

  4. Chris
    Chris
    March 3, 2008 at 1:11 am

    talking of larry peterson, he is one character I would LOVE to know what happened to. have been trying to track him down for years. Top bloke and always a good laugh. Anyone got any ideas?

    Actually, Larry released two versions of his ‘sudden surge of sound’ apostles retrospective, both of which have some amazing stuff which i’ll try to get to Micky next time we hook up. Micky, did I give you another Apostles tape (green , simply with the words The ‘Erberts written on it?) that’s got some great early stuff on it as well, including a brilliant live version of ‘hello mark’ that’s never been released anywhere else.

  5. simon
    simon
    March 3, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Chris I knew Larry for years, yes top bloke, sadly our friendship was strained when I worked with him at his father’s place in Mile End (David Barry Ltd.) for a couple of years. The address details are here:

    http://www.applegate.co.uk/textiles/company/co_1005087.htm

    I’m guessing he is still there but haven’t spoken to him in a long time, just one of those things, but would like to hear from him, let me know how you get on Chris! ;->

  6. Nic
    Nic
    March 3, 2008 at 11:36 am

    Chris – is that live version of ‘Hello Mark’ recorded at the Wapping Autonomy Centre?
    Miles had that on a tape that Ann Dee Martian sent him…
    There was also a live instrumental called ‘The Damned’ that I dont remember seeing on another tape…

    I’d forgotten there were 2 versions of that tape – looking forward to getting them from you…
    😉

  7. Chris
    Chris
    March 4, 2008 at 1:27 am

    yes, you’re right! In fact didn’t Andy write a short description of each track in issue two of Miles’ zine? Will have to look that out and scan it for Micky. Should be getting it all fixed and connected back up tomorrow.

  8. Nic
    Nic
    March 4, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Yes, he did write that Chris…I have it somewhere in my ‘library’ but I have the feeling you will find it quicker…

    Looking forward to a scanning frenzy on your part Chris – ours is currently kaput…

  9. Jim V
    Jim V
    May 29, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    lookin fwd to updates

  10. Andy Martin
    Andy Martin
    January 11, 2024 at 1:09 pm

    If anyone knows the current location / contact details of Larry Peterson, I would appreciate it. Recently we uploaded onto our Band Camp site a collection of all the EP’s + bonus tracks of The Apostles, a couple of which feature Larry on vocals so it would be nice to send him a free copy, assuming he wants one.

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