Bad Brains practice session 1978
Yeah, super stuff from the awesome Bad Brains. This particular tape of mine has the two demos from 1979 on the other side, which I will upload at some point soon*. The other side, which I have uploaded tonight, has a very rare practice session with jams of ‘Don’t Need It’, ‘Pay To Cum’, ‘Supertouch Shitfit’ and ‘Riot Squad’ amongst others recorded in 1978. Probably the first time these have been heard in the public arena. Crystal clear sound on the C.B.G.B.’s live performance (note – this performance is a year earlier than the performance being sold on CD and DVD at the moment). Mixing desk magic, no overdubs…this band were shit hot. I was lucky to have seen them perform several times in the 1980’s in the U.K.
* Just checked and the 1979 demos I have on tape have been remixed and released as the ‘Black Dots’ CD on Caroline Records and can be uploaded from here or bought in stores. Well worth getting hold of these tracks, here is a sample from my cassette.
Redbone In The City / Black Dots / How Low Can A Punk Get? / Another Damn Song / Attitude
BAD BRAINS – Bad Brains are perhaps the most important hardcore punk band ever (many argue that their single, “Pay To Cum” b/w “Stay Close to Me” [Bad Brains Records, 1980] is the first hardcore record) but they are definitely the most interesting one. If a brilliant book is ever written based on the hardcore scene, a piece of literary historical writing that captures the bizarre complexities of American culture the way In Cold Blood did, the Bad Brains’ story would be the perfect source material.
Quite simply, H.R (Paul Hudson), the band’s founder, is a mad genius that only America could produce; he’s a magnetic, self-destructive, unfocused / ultrafocused, brilliant, schizo, frustrating, talented icon whose powers have resulted in a career/non-career that has no parallels. Before he was 20 he studied medicine in college, flunked out, abused drugs, fathered a child and worked simple jobs. His dismal hopes for a better life left Hudson ripe for suggestion, and when he stumbled upon some dusty self-help manuals he decided to reconfigure his life based on the principles of PMA (Positive Mental Attitude). He used this positivity to realize a dream: he wanted to make music! Hudson lived in Maryland, but our story shifts to nearby Washington, DC.
DC is a predominantly African American town, but the punk scene was, not surprisingly, very white. Two neighbors from the Black side of the tracks, Sid McCray and Darryl Jenifer, were open to white music and an interest in Metal led them to ’77 punk. Jenifer’s interests drifted to progressive Jazz Fusion music, however, and he soon joined Paul Hudson’s new band, Mindpower (a PMA name) with Paul’s brother Earl Hudson on drums and friend Gary Miller (the future Dr. Know) on guitar. Mindpower was a short lived, unsuccessful musical experiment, but Paul stayed positive, and when McCray urged them to give punk a chance they changed gears and renamed the band Bad Brains. HR (Hudson’s punk persona) liked the name because it combined the Black English slang “Bad” with the idea of mind power, not knowing that Daryl took it from a Ramones song.
The key axis-moment in DC punk history is the Cramps show at Hall of Nations in 1979. Though it’s hard to believe the ultra-serious straight edge and emo scenes would be born from a band as joyous and goofy as the Cramps, the fact is, like the famed Ramones show that inspired every important British punker, this concert was attended by future members of Minor Threat, Rights of Spring and many other significant DC bands. And it was at that show that Bad Brains handed out flyer’s for their debut show in the Hudson basement. The five member band (Sid was briefly a second vocalist) played furious punk with lyrics that combined PMA optimism with outrage. They developed a unique sound, combining jazz influences, Jenifer’s and Dr. Know’s invigorating playing, HR’s unusual reedy voice, and, in lieu of the stiff metronomic beat that hardcore would be known for, the meaty rhythms of drummer Earl Hudson that swung like a rusty axe.
By the end of the year they recorded their demo (7 tracks done in an hour), started incorporating Reggae (Mindpower had gone on a band field trip to a Bob Marley concert before Bad Brains formed), tried to relocate to New York and London (both failures, they never got past customs in Europe) and recorded what would be their first single.
As the ’80s dawned HR struggled with drugs and spirituality and become more invested in Rastafarianism. From any distance HR, a drug addled college dropout basing his life around absurd self-help books, doesn’t seem like someone you’d follow, but his charisma and magnetism made him a true leader and soon the band members spoke in Jamaican accents.
Over the next couple of years several managers who recognized Bad Brains’ powers tried to get them on the road to super-stardom but it wasn’t to be. Though their shows were amazing (HR’s signature back-flips were something unseen on the tiny punk stages he roamed) and though they managed to record some amazing songs, HR’s unpredictability always shut doors of opportunity as fast as they opened.
The only reason they were able to negotiate the release of their legendary self-titled cassette album for ROIR (1982) is that ROIR’s Neil Cooper (who died last year) personally knew Rastafarian prophet Haile Sellassie. The cassette (diehards insist it only sounds right on cassette) would sell over 100,000 copies and became one of the most influential hardcore releases of all time. It led the band to coast to coast touring, and it was in San Francisco and Texas that Bad Brains would feel their first backlash from the punk world. The religious doctrines HR was adhering to were intolerant of homosexuals. This led to conflicts as bands they played with were either gay friendly or gay, culminating in some ugly incidents with the Big Boys that became the talk of the punk grapevine.
HR’s Rasta ways also had him trying to guide the band to an all Reggae repertoire, which caused quite a bit of oddness, with either punk fans not getting as much punk as they expected or, on occasion, Bad Brains drawing a Black Reggae crowd that was confused by the local, white punk opening acts. After the troubled tour more chaos followed, leading to them losing their practice space, master tapes for upcoming records and equipment.
They were given a new lease on life by punk fan Rick Ocasek (the Cars) who helped them record the band’s first full length Rock For Light (PVC, 1983). Due to the regular Bad Brains chaos the record had an odd history or being released on a few labels over the years, but the album is perhaps the most cohesive document of their Rasta/punk balance. This led to interest from major labels but HR wanted none of it. He really wanted to change the band’s name and stop playing rock altogether, and he (of course) thought major corporations were Babylon / Satan / apocalypse bringers.
After sabotaging their chances at success the band was essentially broken up, and HR supported himself financially by selling pot (leading to an arrest and jail sentence). He still played occasionally with his brother, but was not on warm terms with Jenifer or Know. However, in 1985 they somehow made peace and re-formed, wrote new material, toured and made a new album. After the drama and odd release history of their previous recordings, now they were working with an almost real label on an almost real record, I Against I (SST, 1986).
It featured diverse musical excursions, and solid writing and singing by a fully engaged HR. The well-received album led to the possibility of signing with Island (Bob Marley’s label!) but again HR refused and he and his brother left the band to concentrate on their other project. Between 1984 and 1990 HR performed with and released recordings with his “solo” band H.R. (also known as Human Rights). The best of these, Human Rights (SST, 1987) is an odd fusion of Reggae, Funk, pop and Rock that showcases the unusual magic of HR’s voice. The band performed with a rotating lineup that often included his brother Earl and DAVE BYERS. I saw them perform once with a chorus of sweet singing women complimenting HR’s reedy, off center vocal stylings in a sublime, fantastic way, making it evident what was special about his unique talents. However, at the same show the band performed without keyboardist Billy Fields (later of the Atlanta-based Black rock band Follow For Now and the rap group Arrested Development) who HR had taken the fall for a drug bust at the previous show. Unfortunately, that kind of disorder was more what the band would be about than the musical coherence. Human Rights was able to exist with drastically changing lineups until the end of the 80s, but eventually no one would work with him.
After a European tour with Human Rights ended with HR stranded overseas he eventually made it back to the states and he and his brother briefly rejoined Bad Brains who had been performing with another singer. Quickness (Caroline, 1989), featured HR as a lyricist (anti-gay stuff included), but had little Reggae, and with the inclusion of the Punk-Metal crossover sound that many hardcore bands were into, it feels like HR is merely a hired hand. The European tour that followed had HR physically attacking a band-mate and jumping off a moving tour bus. When they returned to the states the band broke up.
Bad Brains reformed with singer Chuck Mosely (Faith No More) and continued to play. Things were worse for HR whose Reggae band was falling apart. He had sold the rights to the name and the music of Bad Brains to his ex-band-mates for needed cash, and without even that minute income coming in he spent a few years drifting between homelessness, his parents’ house, incarceration, and short stints on friends couches for the brief period between his arrival and the time he alienated them.
The above text stolen from the following site
Nic
March 12, 2008 at 3:46 pmAh, this is a cracking post, Pengy: killer stuff!
I love the 1978 practice session – great to hear the more melodic mid-tempo versions of the later ragers…Thanks!
Regarding the CBGB live assault: the first track is a version of ‘12XU’ by Wire which was also covered by Minor Threat, so maybe it was a D.C. thing…
I’d forgotten HR’s Rotten-esque rolled R’s on ‘Redbone in the City’ – classic…
🙂
Bad Brains were a great band: powerful heavy music, full of aggression and energy…and then sweet Roots interludes…
I only saw them once in the early 1980’s (supporting UK Subs), but caught them a couple of times later when they were touring for ‘I Against I’…
Their Rasta proclivities did indeed cause them to piss off a lot of people with their pronouncements on gay people: the Millions of Dead Cops song ‘Pay to Cum Along’ (on the ‘Rat Music for Rat People Vol 2’ LP) is a critique of Bad Brains…
Contrary to the views of the article, there isn’t really any argument about what was the first ‘Hardcore’ single: The Middle Class recorded their first EP in 1978 and as such it pre-dates Bad Brains (as demonstrated on the slow tempos of your l1978 practice session)…
(Black Flag’s (great) first single was recorded in January 1978, but it’s slightly more metallic and ‘trad’ to be fully classed as ‘Hardcore’)…
I remember first getting a copy of the ‘Earcom 3’ 2 x 7 inch sampler from Fast Records in 1979 and loving it all (Noh Mercy!), but being particularly blown away by The Middle Class track ‘Out of Vogue’…
Nuzz
March 12, 2008 at 3:51 pmTotally fucking amazing live when they played in Stevenage, upset the skinheads by just being there. From lightning speed thrash to laid back reggae in the blink of an eye lid, genius.
lee23
March 12, 2008 at 10:13 pm…there’s always a slight cynicism when people say who the greatest live band in the world is…but i saw the bad brains live, its true 🙂
gerard
March 13, 2008 at 12:12 amobviously its a matter of taste but i’d vote for troublefunk as best live band. the levellers were pretty ace live too and indeed still are.
John No Last Name
March 13, 2008 at 7:45 amSorry Gerard is is absolutely not a matter of taste, you are wrong the Bad Brains were in fact the best live band :).
Chris
March 13, 2008 at 3:50 pmBoth wrong. While Trouble Funk may have been amongst the two best ever live bands, the top place must go to Parliament Funkadelic who I had the pleasure of seeing at Fuji in 2002.
NB: Always found it a bit weird Bad Brains were even tolerated after espousing their homophobic bullshit. Fuck them.
gerard
March 13, 2008 at 11:12 pmhmmm…
thumbs up to george clinton et al, top quality but i never saw him live
i’m not sure about all this cock rock stuff… surely if we’re going to allow that in the voting then those 70s heavy metal bands did it better?
interesting regarding chris’s take on bad brains – heavy metal and reggae and homophobia always did sit together in that respect at least
John No Last Name
March 14, 2008 at 12:28 amOkay first of all I was joking.
Second Chris do you think George Clinton is gay friendly?
I would guess that his views on gays are if not 100% equal to the Bad Brains’ they are at least 75% of the way there,
The bigger question is why should someones political views affect your view of their music.
I doubt anyone is going to jump up and call Kirk Brandon a great guy, but some of his music was great, the same goes for a lot of great musicians. I’ve heard horrible stories about John Bonham, Bowie, Trent Reznor, Prince, Johnny Lydon, Tony Iommi, Jaz Coleman, Bob Dylan and a ton of others.
Now on the other hand Moby is a really nice guy and is vegan to boot. Problem is his music is a boring bland pile of festering dogshite that’s only purpose is to make being lobotomised more appealing.
gerard
March 14, 2008 at 12:55 am“I’ve heard horrible stories about John Bonham, Bowie, Trent Reznor, Prince, Johnny Lydon, Tony Iommi, Jaz Coleman, Bob Dylan and a ton of others.”
we’re all ears!
John No Last Name
March 14, 2008 at 7:31 ambut what about all the dirt I have on you Gerard?
Nic
March 14, 2008 at 10:14 amI love the way Moby was ‘squeaky clean’ and then went off the rails to become a drug-addled swinger: that’s the spirit!
Chris
March 14, 2008 at 4:07 pmhmmm…I’d imagine that having ‘out’ gay members, singing anti-homophobic songs, publicly denouncing PE’s Flavor Flav when he made homophobic comments and a having group of dancers so camp they make Rupaul seem like Mick McManus kinda suggests 75% ‘of the way there’ may be a bit of an exaggeration, no?
“As the ’80s dawned HR struggled with drugs and spirituality and become more invested in Rastafarianism. From any distance HR, a drug addled college dropout basing his life around absurd self-help books, doesn’t seem like someone you’d follow, but his charisma and magnetism made him a true leader and soon the band members spoke in Jamaican accents.”
ho ho ho…
“The bigger question is why should someones political views affect your view of their music.”
of course it does, don’t be daft. many musicians/composers I like have views at extreme variance to mine, however i’m not talking about Larry Heard (christian), Alan Vega (arch conservative) or Stockhausen (anti-semite) here, i’m talking about a punk band whose views i’ve heard people try to justify and excuse for over 25 years! though, notably, not the band members themselves.
strange however from your comment about Moby that there is an inference WHAT SOMEONE EATS affects ones views on their music.
He might have been a great frontman and I love that ‘pay to cum’ song but HR just sounds like a total dick to me (as, i hasten to add are many musicians whose work I like :))
Not having a go at you mate but the fact of the matter is that if Bad Brains hadn’t been Rastafarians, which some dolts seem to hold in some romanticised awe, they wouldn’t have been tolerated to the extent they were. Lamentable but true.
Okay first of all I was joking.
Second Chris do you think George Clinton is gay friendly?
I would guess that his views on gays are if not 100% equal to the Bad Brains’ they are at least 75% of the way there,
The bigger question is why should someones political views affect your view of their music.
I doubt anyone is going to jump up and call Kirk Brandon a great guy, but some of his music was great, the same goes for a lot of great musicians. I’ve heard horrible stories about John Bonham, Bowie, Trent Reznor, Prince, Johnny Lydon, Tony Iommi, Jaz Coleman, Bob Dylan and a ton of others.
Now on the other hand Moby is a really nice guy and is vegan to boot. Problem is his music is a boring bland pile of festering dogshite that’s only purpose is to make being lobotomised more appealing.
John No Last Name
March 14, 2008 at 5:21 pmSorry man I have personally known several members of P.Funk over the years and I’ve toured with the Bad Brains and can call Doc and Darryl good friends. Both front men are completely crazy, George Clinton has taken to smoking crack onstage behind the amps, has ripped money off virtually every musician he has played with and is all but universally hated by almost every member of his band. His public persona is extremely different from his actual personality. If you had spent any time around the black community in America you would know that homophobia is the norm not the exception.
That said I actually like P. Funk, and I like James Brown too who also is well known for treating his band like shit. My point was you don’t have to love everything about someone to like their music. The Bad Brains were one of the greatest and most influential rock bands ever, as a live band, as musicians and as musical innovators.
Chris
March 14, 2008 at 9:38 pmJohn No Last name, fair enough and my sincerest apologies. You know them and I don’t and you are absolutely right in that ‘public personas’ are invariably very different to the real person.
Additionally, I should also have aknowledged that people’s opinions can change over the years. In the case of the Bad Brains, i think the ‘offending’ comments were made in an NME (or Sounds?) interview approx quarter of a century ago! Which, for all I know they may well have repudiated since.
I’ll be having humble pie for tea tonight 🙂
John No Last Name
March 15, 2008 at 3:16 amYou can hold back on that humble pie, because I can guarantee you that even though 25 years have passed HR still holds the same repugnant views. Which doesn’t in any way affect his music, live shows, or voice. The point is HR is crazy, and really shouldn’t be judged in the way a sane person is judged. That insanity and intensity is exactly what made him such a compelling front man.
Also the other thing to remember is his views are his, the other guys in the band are less extreme and are in fact really nice guys that love music and are all about peace and unity.
Though then again how cool they are has equally no bearing on their music.
Personally I love Prince, Dylan and Sinatra’s music though I don’t imagine meeting any of them would have been much fun.
Chris
March 15, 2008 at 4:17 pm“The point is HR is crazy, and really shouldn’t be judged in the way a sane person is judged. That insanity and intensity is exactly what made him such a compelling front man”
oh dear…
(humble pie put back in the oven)
Nic
March 15, 2008 at 9:08 pmClassic…
🙂
John No Last Name
March 16, 2008 at 3:31 amIt’s really a shame that you don’t get it. Daniel Johnson, Nick Drake, Wesley Willis, Brian Wilson, Syd Barrett and H.R all either could have been or were certified as mentally impaired. Not he’s so crazy or he’s got a lot of energy, I mean full blown mental illness.
Penguin • Post Author •
March 17, 2008 at 4:46 pmHomophobic views expressed by Rastafarians and ‘Back To Africa’ movements throughout the ‘new world’ (USA and West Indies) have been prominate for several centuries. When the media systems matured through cinema, pamphlets and eventually to recorded works, at the early stages of the 1900’s, the message was for ‘Back To Africa’ spokesmen such as Marcus Garvey and Leonard Howell, to state that the white race had a unified interest in destroying the black race and culture, therefore in the views of the leaders of such movements, homosexuality was not accepted, a little later on in the century the same ideas spread to the use of contraception. Basically in a very basic nutshell, the black race must be spread and grow at all costs, to eventually be able to protect its history / culture etc from being wiped out by the white race, the remaining American Indians could have possibly confirmed this paranoia to the blacks of the U.S. in the last century. Ditto the Carib Indians and Aztec culture in the Caribbean and South America.
Any member of the black race not producing babies from natural sex or anyone using contraception, was castagated as a traitor to the race and to the cause.
Now this idea is not new, in historical context with the slaves transported to the ‘new world’ the idea is over 500 years old. In a more modern ‘musical’ context a lot of the blues musicians, in the early 1900’s would have believed that the REAL threat of persecusion was literally just round the corner in the next town or homestead esp in the southern states of the U.S.
Jazz musicians grown out of the blues scene in the 1920’s and 1930’s, some now existing in the ghettos of NY and Chicago would also spread this doctrine.
The Rastas of the 1940’s onwards in Jamaica (including Bob Marley by the way) hung onto this basic idea. And it was the norm for black families growing through the various stages of strife in the U.S and the Caribbean to adopt this mentalilty.
Of course nowadays with the spread of AIDS in the early 1980’s in Africa (sound of conspiricy theorist’s rubbing thier hands) this doctrine is a little harder to impliment (non-contraception wise).
A similar doctrine goes for black men / women dating outside there race of course…that’s one for another day.
Now if you take the black artists HR or say The Last Poets or John Coltraine in the time context of when they existed and created there best work, then my ears will always be open to the works performed by said artists, and many others.
In the late 1950’s/60’s/70’s and early 1980’s these artists musics and the interviews printed and views aired, were very relivant to many many people, esp in the southern U.S. states where a person my age now (41) would still have had a clear memory of the aparthied, and possibly beatings and killings of family members. It could take generations for these memories to subside from the collective minds of some of the black population of the U.S.
I can not say I agree with any member of society being shunned by another, wether for homosexual, colour predudice or any other reasons, but in context of the America’s history of destroying civilisations in North and South America, wether by Dutch / Spainish / English settlers or the history of slavery of these new lands, added to this the more recent color bar policy in the southern states of U.S, stopped in 1970’s (although some family members in Alabama – wifeys side, say that unofficially it still exists in small towns and you should not enter some places!) I am not that surprised that HR, and many thousands of others black citizens of the ‘new world’ who are of a certain age or generation, have an interest in ‘Back To Africa’ politics, which unfortunatly includes (to a white guy in his Safe European Home, far far away from that specific history) a rather distasteful side.
PS: Incidently, Mozat, Turner the artist (not Nic Turner), Stephen King the writer, Abba…who knows what these artists politcal views, personal views on racism, homosexuality etc were exactly?
If Abba were ultra conservative and into fox hunting, would we all stop dancing to ‘Dancing Queen’ at weddings?
chris
March 17, 2008 at 5:32 pmthere is a vast difference between personally *holding* and PUBLICLY *ESPOUSING* (by default, propogating and promoting) views. That is my argument.
just as there is also a vast difference between folk in the home-counties hunting foxes and folk in Jamaica murdering people because of their sex.
John No Last Name
March 17, 2008 at 6:11 pmExcellent post Penguin.
Penguin • Post Author •
March 17, 2008 at 8:22 pmChris, if someone is in a band, forget Bad Brains, let’s say a Tibetan Folk Band, and they go on stage or have an interview printed then they should promote what they think to them, is the truth.
This Tibetan Folk Band has songs about Tibetan Nationalism and lots of Anti-China songs.
Do we dismiss these songs as racist?
The obvious answer is yes…they are racist against the Chinese.
Would we give the Tibetan Folk Band any more time than say Screwdriver?
The obvious answer would be NO.
But we would give the Tibetans a listen, or try to understand, because in the context of their anti-China songs at this period or many other periods throughout the years, we know, or think, that the Tibetans are being persecuted and systematically put to death by Chinese goverment.
In the context of Screwdriver, there is no significant threat to working / middle class white people in the UK at this point in time, or indeed when the band were about.
So Screwdrivers view of blacks, gays, asians etc is based on pure ignorance and hate, rather than the real threat of any kind of oppression by blacks, gays, asians etc, happening to the white masses in ‘their’ land.
Screwdriver have the luxury to put out there shite views without any kind of real oppression or danger of death or being locked up and tortured, because of the place where they would generally be based (Northern Europe was still relatively liberal overall compared to the rest of the world).
If people are racist or homophobic, we should look at the context of why these group of people are that way inclined. I wrote the post above to illustrate this fact specifically in the ‘new world’. There was even up to the 1970’s a real fear of white aggression and plotting the downfall of the black race going on. Heroin turning up in Harlem overnight in the mid 1960’s, some suggested by the CIA, is just a very small example of the paranoia amongst the black poor in New York.
If a white guy living in Islington in 2008 was homophobic, with no reason apart from pure hate of the lifestyle I would think he was a twat.
If a black guy living in the ghettos of DC in 1979 was homophobic, and he was part of the back to Africa movement I would at least understand why he got to that position.
Wether I would agree with his views is a different matter, same with our friends the Tibetan Folk Band, but I would understand the context of why the content of their songs are written in such a way.
Hope this all makes sense?
Nic
March 17, 2008 at 8:45 pmNo-one has yet mentioned the large part which religion plays in the dissemination of homophobia amongst all the communities in America..
I would view this background of religious bigotry as much more of a catalyst than the relatively recent ‘Back to Africa’ movements…
I’m not sure about the ‘sliding scale’ based on ‘threat’ really…
If a Tibetan sings a song that ridicules the Chinese for their race (rather than their actions), it’s as unwholesome and repugnant as any other form of racism – from the ‘white power’ bigotry of Skrewdriver to the ‘5 Percent Nation’ bigotry of Brand Nubian…
Penguin • Post Author •
March 17, 2008 at 9:47 pmNic, true with the religion stateside, but I was putting HR’s views into context of his membership of The Rastafarian faith, a ‘Back To Africa’ movement.
Racism is a problem, but one that unfortunately exists in all kind of areas, in all kinds of countries and takes 100’s of years to heal over the damage. Not just the lifetime of Penguin or Nic.
Like I say wether I agree with views of Tibetans against The Chinese, the views of the Japanese against the Chinese, the views of the Palastinians against Jews or Greeks and Turkish etc etc etc is irrelevant.
I personally do not agree with any form of racism from any countries people, and sometimes I rub a Crass record to make it go away, but I assure you that if an elderly European based Jewish lady has never spoken to an elderly German lady since 1936 or speaks bitterly against the German race, then I will not judge her in the same light as a bald headed 15 year old from the UK who has had no harm ever done to him by ‘minorities’ in his or her local area and just throws around hateful vibes cos he has the luxury of being able to do so in his Safe European Home.
I am not a racist, I just need to look at things in context, this is not something that other people may feel comfortable with when discussing this subject.
Right where’s my white horse and hood?
Nuzz
March 17, 2008 at 10:14 pmAny chance of posting some Tibetan folk music penguin?
Penguin • Post Author •
March 17, 2008 at 10:23 pmYeah Nuzz, lets’s go with that…!
dion
March 18, 2008 at 2:35 pmfollowing on from the discussion over the best live band, not bad brains, not troublefunk, not even P-funk, though it has a strong P-Funk link……….. BOOTSY COLLINS & HIS RUBBER BAND, fucking amazing!!!!!!!
Grant
January 24, 2009 at 4:48 pmreplying to the first poster…I was at that Stevenage gig too and it was truly amazing! Definately one of the turning points in my life. I actually recorded the gig and still have the recording so if anyone’s interested just let me know.
Grant
Penguin • Post Author •
January 24, 2009 at 7:18 pmHi Grant, would love to upload any live cassettes from Bowes Lyon House, one of my old stomping grounds. I will get in touch with your personal email in a day or so for details etc.
hoth
August 17, 2009 at 9:01 pmIf anyone out there can supply a lossless copy of this ’78 practice session (meaning cassette > cdr OR cassette > wav > flac), I’m open for trades.
Punk & Hardcore audio & dvd trade list:
http://www.phishhook.com/lists/hothcanada?listid=9
Penguin • Post Author •
August 17, 2009 at 10:28 pmWell I have the tape and created the WAV to transfer to MP3 for this site.
What you want it for? I do not mind getting you a copy but if you are gonna make £££ of it I may have to think twice or indeed thrice.
hoth
August 18, 2009 at 12:13 am“Well I have the tape and created the WAV to transfer to MP3 for this site.
What you want it for? I do not mind getting you a copy but if you are gonna make £££ of it I may have to think twice or indeed thrice.”
Nope, no money involved — strictly a trade for my personal collection.
I have never seen or heard of this particular jam anywhere before today.
Check out my list — maybe I have something you’d be interested in posting here?
CM