I have just deleted the following comment from greengalloway.
The “counterculture” was acted out by bourgeois individuals in a bourgeois way. The “action” you speak of, flyers, zines, and magazines, is not action but mediation, the mediation between their inner anguish of being bourgeois that mostly attempted to express that anguish to shock or devalue the existing social arrangements. Far from being original the counterculture was the latest in a long line of Euro-American nihilists who took their cue from fools of no integral consequence other than making themselves look important when they were not. The march of the decades proceeding from that time and the dissolution of all previous modes of social existence in Western countries qualifies the claim that the baby boomer generation has been the most destructive people the planet has ever seen. This is especially true for people that actually give a damn about that which is not ephemeral.
For revolution,
BANA
At first I thought it was from a new situationist group, since it was on a situ-related post. But BANA turns out to stand for “ Bay Area National Anarchist” and ‘National Anarchist’ = anarcho-Nazi. There is a wikipaedia entry on National Anarchism which gives background if you really want to know more.
Bit of a back-handed compliment – if it means our (somewhat aging now) counterculture remains offensive to today’s neo-Nazis.
andus
February 16, 2009 at 6:48 pm“In a free society, how far does one tolerate intolerance”?
you can only be intolerant if you have the means to enforce your intolerant ideas, and only the authoritys have that, individuals and groups may have intolerant ideas but they cannot enforce them therefore their intolerance is merely theory. therefore we should stop tolerating the intolerant when they gain the power or the means to enforce their intolerance,
Martin C
February 17, 2009 at 2:34 am“you can only be intolerant if you have the means to enforce your intolerant ideas”
Does going out with a gang of inebriated arseholes and kicking someone into A&E or worse cos they looked queer or were a paki count?
Proudhon was a chronic masturbator with a beard by the way. I bet if you nicked a bottle of milk from his doorstep he’d soon be on the blower to the old bill, the hypocritical old dead cunt
Martin C
February 17, 2009 at 3:01 amThe recent snow WAS a Pentagon/Mossad joint cloudbursting attack (backed by the Jesuits and the Bilderbergs) to freeze out the Gaza demonstrators occupying the colleges, wasn’t it? Jade Goody was going to blow the lid on them before Mossad operatives exposed her to plutonium. Shit, a cop car’s just driven past my flat -literally as I type – coincidence? I think not! I’m cracking out the tin foil duvet…night all!
andus
February 17, 2009 at 9:52 amDoes going out with a gang of inebriated arseholes and kicking someone into A&E or worse cos they looked queer or were a paki count?
Yep that would count, they would be in gang enforcing their intolerance.
Proudhon was a chronic masturbator with a beard by the way.
Why didn’t he knock it on the head then, you are supposed to enjoy masterbation, typical Anarchists can’t do anything right. I mean you’ve gotta have a seriously low IQ to be bad at masterbating.
Anyway, How do people know this, I presume he must have been watched during his numerous sessions, and who watched him, and does it count as stalking.
andus
February 17, 2009 at 12:01 pmWhere do people stand on rune stone divination?
I ask because I’ve seen people use rune stones as fortune telling as a precursor to spreading nazi-philosophy as vegetarianism/eco-survival/communal-living speak.
Oh my god. I have had a set of rune stones since 1989. I brought them off some hippy at stonehenge. God I never knew he was a nazi in disguise, jesus they’re everywhere these people. I never realised that when I was giving people readings it was a precursor to spreading nazi philosophy, god you don’t notice it creeping up on you.
Martin C
February 17, 2009 at 1:55 pmJ-K Huysmans wrote an essay about it, it’s called Proudhon Is A Wanker.
Don’t know about runes, I prefer playing dominoes.
andus
February 17, 2009 at 2:11 pmSo how do people know that he was a chronic masterbator. i mean did he announce it himself, or was he ‘outed’, or was it witnessed.
Think I’d best stick to dominoes from now on as well, don’t wanna get arrested by the PC crowd and sent to a Gulag
Martin C
February 17, 2009 at 5:58 pmAccording to Huysmans, the evidence was in a number of sticky anarchist manifestos, glued to the onanist-syndicalist’s palm, but I haven’t read his tract for ages.
andus
February 17, 2009 at 6:43 pmso anarchist manifesto’s gave him the horn, very interesting, but was it the anarchist theory that turned him on, or just the written letters, I have heard of people being turned on by the letter ‘and’ and the letter ‘the’. so proudhorn, was he excited by non-russian text.
alistairliv • Post Author •
February 17, 2009 at 7:43 pmYeah, but what about nazi punks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz1sBi0-130
Martin C
February 17, 2009 at 11:25 pmNo he was overly excited about putting people in gulags for playing with runes. Allegedly.
Incidentally, some PC people can be annoying, but if they’re basically arguing for others to stop going on about paki and mother in law jokes, are they really that bad? I don’t think they’ll be carting you off anywhere anytime soon.
Troy Southgate looks like a tragically failed Chippendale reject, by the way.
Al – stop sensibling in on all this.
baron von zubb
February 18, 2009 at 1:31 amIm in the bay area ATM and I just cant believe theres nazis here. These calif types seem such a freindly bunch.
Dont I remember us (Monday Group and autonomist friends) being dubbed fascists by both the left and the anarchist movement?
Until everyone got together and formed Class War and lived happily ever after.
Christ its great being so old now that I dont feel the need to give a fuck about it all anymore.
The bastards have won. We lost. Crass fans in Micky Dees. Fab.
Extreme fascism died its death after the Hanborough Tavern, and if it came back im sure the book burning Bradford posse will have go back.
Nice.
Give me the shade of a palm tree and a good novel xx
satan
July 3, 2010 at 8:46 amanarchist are nazis, grow up fools.
alistairliv • Post Author •
July 3, 2010 at 12:33 pmHi Satan, hope the fires of hell are still blazing merrily away. Since you are well known as a master of deceit, I assume that when you say ” Anarchists are Nazis” what you really mean (but can’t say without falling into the Liar’s Paradox) is that “Anarchists are not Nazis” ?
jock
July 3, 2010 at 1:52 pmoooh its satan tell billybobneck