1. Nic
    December 22, 2008 at 9:41 am

    PS Chris – did you ever get hold of the ‘Kilt by Death’ 3 x CDr bootleg of Scottish Punk / Post Punk / Indie?
    If you didn’t, I have it all as MP3s…

    I’ve also got that single by The Partizans (Birmingham)…

  2. WErnEr
    January 25, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Hello Chris

    Just found this site through my search for the ANKLE comp tape … I’m looking very hard for this tape and would be grateful if someone would sell me one of this. Pls contact me at :

    Best regards,

  3. chris
    February 2, 2009 at 3:18 am

    WErnER: I’ve still got my copy of The Ankle File but as luck would have it a fine fellow called Kenny just sent me a copy he has transferred to CD which i’ll be happy to send you a copy of. Listening to it the now. That Vertical Smiles track “The New Clash Single” is amazing. saw them at one of the first gigs I ever went to which was basically what could be only described as a Stirling Punk Festival with The Fakes, Vertical Smiles and others whose names escape me playing ontop of a building at Stirling Uni. early 1979 I believe. Those French Girls are on it too who I saw supporting The Skids, again at Stirling Uni. Good times!!

  4. Mark
    February 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Thanks for the kind words Chris…I was the vocalist in VS (can’t in all fairness use the word singer…).

    Life now being what it is, I gave a copy of the Mestthetics CD which features New Clash Single to Mick Jones recently; luckily he just laughed…

  5. chris
    February 10, 2009 at 1:03 am

    Aha! Mr Hagen! Would love to hear this CD if it features a recording of new clash single. not to mention any other stuff VS may have recorded. please contact me via penguin who runs this site.

    Think a Fakes rehearsal plus a stirling area comp tape I put out in 81 or so should still be up on this site too, should you fancy taking a further trip down memory lane.

    Hope you’re well.

  6. Rum
    February 10, 2009 at 11:07 am

    The Skroteez “Overspill” EP and 1983 Demo can be downloaded along with some External Menace EPs, demo and live recordings from the NATION ON FIRE blog at;

  7. Stephen
    November 7, 2009 at 2:40 am

    Hey Chris I just googled my old band The Screaming Babies from Edinburgh, do you really have us on tape ? I would love to hear it as I never had anything like that. But I do have some happy memories of supporting The Exploited and blurred memories of of many many great bands at clouds. Friday nights and avoiding the mental livi punks, happy days….

  8. Stephen
    January 17, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    Tommy Kays is indeed alive & well! Clydeside Press is now near Glasgow Cross. Tommy prints our posters!

    February 17, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Hi guys Do you have, or know where I can get a copy of
    FIRE EXIT 10 wee smashers or Zips live at Burns Howf
    let me explain. . .

    I’m writing a semi fictional book blending my own experiences of punk over a 20 year period with scene reports from all over the UK that usually get written out of the Pistols/Clash/Ramones & no-one else rubbish.

    (I’m no writer I’ve only ever done my zine & pieces for the excellent Erics book which was my local scene back in 77) & I also have to fit this around doing the house up to sell before we emigrate to Australia in Sept & working full time nights as a nurse! but things are coming along well.

    Although based around a real gig from the time, like I said it’s a fictional story based around memories of some mates who were involved in the Glasgow punk scene at the time ie
    GerryAttrick/JockStrap/ViciousRiff/Bill Provoked/Jon Zips mixed with my own lively experiences scallying in Glasgow with Everton at both Celtic & Rangers in later years
    I’ve knocked together a draft of a story involving my two fanzine sellers meeting up with the Glasgow punks before jumping on a Coach from Bruce’s to a gig the Jolt did over in Falkirk at Mannequins on 1st December 1977.

    My problem as ever is in trying to describe the sound of the early Glasgow punk bands.
    I’ve got boots of Johnny & Abusers/ Jolt/ Zone/ Valves/ but could really do with help describing the real punk bands. . .
    Do you have, or know where I can get a copy of
    FIRE EXIT 10 wee smashers or Zips live at Burns Howf (both bands were forming dec 1977)
    fanzine reviews or memories of seeing early sets by FIRE EXIT/ZIPS/
    Local zines I’m still trying to track down include . . .It ticked & exploded/Kingdom Come/Jungleland/Trash/Torn to threads/Chickenshit

    So if you were in the A.P.G. or were a stanklifter, or have any info on any of the above, or were around the scene please get in touch, I’d love to hear your story.
    I’d especially love to talk to
    Tony D
    or stephen re Tommy Kaye

    Thanks guys great site too, still remember the first time I bought KYPP zine it blew my mind

    Mick Mada c/o
    & one time gig gower zine writer from Erics/Bradys/Planet X & various squats across Liverpool. now an old man

  10. Chris L
    Chris L
    February 20, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Actually, Mick, Tommy Kayes is probably the guy to speak to re the Paisley bands as he put out records by some of the best known acts (Haha Funny Polis ep, Life’s A Wank etc)

    You may also find this interesting, from Peter McDougall’s ‘Just a boys game’ film. the band playing in the pub when there is the fight are, I believe, The Cuban heels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAX6QNUA7w

    Some other stuff about the late 70s Scottish punk scene can be found here:



    March 17, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    In reply to
    MICKMADA Says:

    February 17th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    Hi guys Do you have, or know where I can get a copy of
    FIRE EXIT 10 wee smashers or Zips live at Burns

    Yip I’m Gerry Attrick and were still gigging in 2010 Fire Exit just gigged last night at Rockers Glasgow with Los Mondo Bongo (Mike Peters-Alarm / Derek Forbes – Simple Minds and a few guys from Joe Stummers Mescaleros) John McNeil for The Zips was at the gig as well. You can link John & the Zips through my sites. we have two sites my own at myspace.com/fireexit77 and the bands on fireexituk
    We have released Timewall 7″ in 1979 and since quite a few vinyl and hard CDs oh and DVDs..you can catch us on you tube joined with Knox from the Vibrators at last years Rebellion festival uk…
    Last year we played around 70 gigs..
    We are only playing a handful of gigs now each year due to my ill health.
    Were off to Rebellion Venice in May with Cock Sparra The boys and various bands and were doing Rebellion Blackpool UK with over 200 bands including the New York Dolls…anyway
    Feel free to get in touch through the sites or direct at
    Gerry & Fire Exit

  12. denzil
    March 17, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    Am I right in thinking there was a Paisley band called Jimmy Savilles Wheelchair/

    March 18, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Never heard of them ..sorry..Fire Exit have a song called “Wheelchair Outa Control” its on the site and on youtube. Also features on various comp cds like “Blackpool Bounce””Nothing set in Stone” “Its a Cancerous Society” and a smashing funny wee video for “Glasgow Homeless” as well as 3 Fire Exit cds..
    The song is about a buddy who ended up in a wheelchair and was suicidal but got right into punk & drink and is a dangerous wee bastard. Hahaha his name is Chris (he calls himself Chris Cripple) check out his site on myspace.

  14. Chris L
    Chris L
    March 18, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    denzil Says:

    March 17th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    Am I right in thinking there was a Paisley band called Jimmy Savilles Wheelchair?

    Yes. But they came about 15 years later.

  15. DavidM
    March 18, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    Caught Jimmy Saville’s Wheelchair I think twice – with Sedition here in Aberdeen. Bassist Calum would later join Oi Polloi for a time, before moving across the pond and joining forces with Death Mold, A.P.P.L.E., and most recently Final Conflict and Phobia.

  16. Steve
    March 18, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    I have been trying to locate any material from Post-Valves outfit Fun City. Anything other than the two tracks released on the ‘Mint Sauce For The Masses’ EP.
    Tried Google, nothing! Even put out a request on Edinburgh Freecycle in vain hope, this is almost becoming an obsession!!
    Don’t suppose, is there anybody out there…..

  17. luggy
    March 19, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Never heard of ’em, what are ‘Mint Sauce For The Masses’ songs like? The Valves had some good tunes.

  18. chris
    March 19, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    had a copy of ‘mint sauce’ but flogged it on ebay yonks back.

    i imagine fun city recorded a demo if they had tracks included. gary mccormack & his brother were in the band weren’t they?

  19. DavidM
    March 19, 2010 at 7:34 pm

    No thread about Scottish punk would be complete without some mention of Aberdeen’s finest Toxik Ephex, and who despite a split in ’91, are still kicking it to this day… and a nicer buncha folks you could not hope to meet. CD retrospective “Punk As Two Fucks” available through Topplers Recs. http://www.topplers.net/ … and for those who may not have come across Toxik, folks can check ’em out here: http://www.myspace.com/toxikephex

  20. KennyX
    April 18, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Hi Steve – I’ve got a Fun City 1980 5 song Demo in MP3 format.

    Leave your email address and I’ll send them on.


  21. Steve
    April 18, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Kenny – That would be fantastic!!

    If you could forward these to bingobango303@yahoo.com that would be dandy.

    I really am indebted… Double Cheers!!


  22. Chris Connelly
    Chris Connelly
    May 13, 2010 at 9:09 pm

    Hi, great website and great songs.

    I am writing a book on Cargo studios (Rochdale 1977 to 1984) and the bands that recorded there. If anybody could please pass on my contact details for The Fakes and any other bands that you may know who recorded there, it would be much appreciated and I will send you a book when it is printed.

    My e-mail is chrisdiconnelly@sky.com


  23. Chris
    May 14, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    @ Chris Connelly – I’m still in touch with Jamzy of The Fakes so will pass on your details and news of the book project. Cheers, Chris Low

  24. lynne
    July 2, 2010 at 8:59 pm



  25. George
    July 23, 2010 at 3:49 pm


    Toxik Ephex were one of the Best bands Fae Alba, as well Nyah Fearties / Junkmas Choir .

    Also Ex-Cathedra , they were fuckin amazing live – doing Anarcho / Street Punk with Two – tone Ska. Does anyone know what happened to Ex-Cathedra?


  26. Tommo
    September 30, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    I was at the Scroteez gig in Aston Under something nr Manachester!
    Top night massive scrap with all the locals and boys in blue.
    Oh the joys of Evo Stick and cheap booze, I think the Subs played okay as well x

  27. jock
    October 1, 2010 at 10:25 am

    that gig tommo was at drifters nightclub in duckinfield, ashton is next door. got jumped by perry boys (casuals) round the corner from the venue before we even got in.
    yes was a top night, especially when i got knocked out by some huge scottish fella for fuck all, happy days 🙂 you could always lean over the bar on a busy night and pull yerself a quick pint at drifters.
    yep, subs were good that night shame about all the macho men.

  28. Jim V
    Jim V
    October 4, 2010 at 1:23 am

    Enjoyed The Last Supper Edinburgh liquid rooms Sat….loads of Paisley in attendance…maybe Steve should play Paisley next round?

    Spoke to a drummer who squatted London at the time and who played with GOD TOLD ME TO DO IT, but didn’t get to find out if he had any tapes (I think he was responsible for exposing Paisley to The Mob/The Apostles!)

    Getting closer to finding a copy of Glass Shells and Cars, but I wondered as Andy has featured so prominently here If you would post HAVE 2, Dave and others band?

  29. Stephen
    November 15, 2010 at 6:43 pm

    Hi guys, I’m a new poster but with a personal interest in Scottish punk and post punk. I was wondering of anyone (particularly Chris Low) could help me out with some info – I’m trying to track down the titles of records apparently released by two bands from the Stirling area, the Hollow Men and Curious Reign. Any one know anything about them?

    Are the Hollow Men the group who relesed a single ‘Future’ in 1981? Did Curious Reign actually release a single and was it before or after the ANKLE file tape? Many thanks for any light that can be shed on things.

  30. Penguin
    November 27, 2010 at 11:58 am

    Stephen, Chris is currently in Japan and has been for some time trying to get onto the message you left (and others on different posts) with no success. He will reply personally to you when he comes back to the UK in a few weeks.

  31. Chris L
    Chris L
    January 3, 2011 at 2:34 am

    @Stephen: Apologies for late reply but i’ve been out of the country and haven’t been able to post on this site.

    I think I saw Curious Reign somewhere in Stirling, but really can’t remember much about them. have a feeling they were a bit like early Ultravox/Simple Minds and the other thing I remember for some reason is that one of them may have had a Kevin Keegan perm and ‘tache. Great help, eh? I never knew they released a single and am a wee bit surprised as i’m sure i’d have grabbed a copy if they had.

    The Hollow Men i am pretty sure did release a single (with, a old western , Colt style revolver on it) as I remember being very surprised to see on (i think) the cover that they lived at the end of my family’s street, Henderson Rd in Bridge of Allan. I remember walking along there to make contact with them so I could write about them in my zine but there was no answer and no response to the note I left. So they remain as enigmatic as their name.

    Sorry I cannot shed any further light on either band. Perhaps if Billy McChord pops up again he may be able to help out.

    Incidentally, Jamzy Fake McEgg, if you’re here I unearthed the tape recording of that New Youth practice you took me along to – and jolly good it is too!

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