Sniper Heretic at the Hope And Anchor in front of Phil Daniels
Bob Short at the Music Machine with the immortal words that actually made the cut, “Bollocks. Piss off. Bollocks.”
Si Heretic auditioning
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Stewart
June 1, 2008 at 3:16 pmHi Val! Yes, you’re right, and it IS a bit odd we don’t know each other, lol! But then, as I’m sure you know, God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform – He obviously only meant us to get to know each other 30 years later on this site 😉 Or, maybe – as Tom Waits puts it – He was away on business at the time…????
(*NB This msg does not imply in any way the existence of God or, should a God exist, the gender of aforesaid God*)
BTW, although I wasn’t there, Pip told me this great tale about a screening of Texas Chainsaw Massacre at the Screen on the Green. He said he was sitting quietly watching the film, tripping on acid, when some bloke came running out of the toilets with a mask on and wielding a (working) chainsaw and running at the audience!!!! Who completely freaked out… Mind you, he WAS on acid, so he probably imagined the whole thing…
Also, Val, I think another reason I think we didn’t get to know each other was there seems to have been only a brief overlap (time-wise) where one lot of punx collided with another lot of punx and mingled; whilst that collision was happening, I think some punx sparked off into completely different directions whilst others from different ‘camps’ formed a new sort of core. Do you know what I mean?
Graham Burnett
June 1, 2008 at 4:31 pmA girl at my school called Vanessa who was one of the very first punks (76) appears as an extra in Jubilee – she’s on the soundtrack record cover as well, a photo on the back where shes in the crowd around someone tied up with wire I think. I saw Vanessa 25 years later at a school reunion ‘do’ and asked her about it, she didn’t know anything about being on the cover, amazing you would have thought in all those years somebody else would have mentioned it to her…
Phil
June 1, 2008 at 4:57 pmThat was the Slits doing that weird barb wire maypole dance in Jubliee.
Your mate must of been one of the onlookers
Graham Burnett
June 1, 2008 at 6:23 pmRe the Bloody Kids film mentioned above – it was filmed in sunny Southend on Sea – there’s some discussion about it on the Southend Punks website here http://tinyurl.com/4cjg3e
Nic
June 1, 2008 at 6:39 pmI had a copy of ‘Bloody Kids’ – pretty appalling (although the cinematography showed flair)…
Val
June 14, 2008 at 6:12 pm@ Mick – Re- ‘Remember coming out of an all night John Walters there and being shocked when I came out in the morning at how normal everything was. Think I expected everyone to be eating dogshit off of the pavement!’
I had a similar experience after watching Trainspotting – I was so wrapped up in the Scottish drug scene then moving to London story, that when I walked out of the cinema into the streets of Yeovil, Somerset, I had to stop and work out where on earth I was for a minute.
Val
June 14, 2008 at 6:15 pm@ Nic “Val – was the “rabbits” film called ‘Night of the lepus’?
(My diary says that BBC2 showed it in 1978)
Later in the 80’s (1984 – 1988 time), we used to use the all-nighters at the Scala as a dosshouse for after gigs…”
Yes that’s quite possibly the film – if so, don’t bother to try and find it! I remember people turning up to the all-nighters with sleeping bags and all lying along the front row – that must have been you then?!
Sam
June 15, 2008 at 4:25 pmFunny how something as memorable as The Scala scene developed from the fact that there was no way of getting home, other than walking, if you stayed out too late. No nightbuses and we couldn’t afford taxis. I did have some marathon treks at that time though, mainly whilst speeding. West Hampstead to Brixton was a good one and the ‘night of the jam doughnut miracle’ with Jake – Nag’s Head to Cricklewood. As you’d inevitably get stopped and searched on these adventures, I took to carrying 5 or 6 boxes of matches with me just to annoy the London constabulary. This was the favoured method of drug transportation at the time, though usually the matchbox’d be tucked uncomfortably down one’s Y fronts.
Stewart
June 15, 2008 at 6:53 pmFuck, never thought to stash it in a matchbox… Doh! No wonder all my drugs smelt a bit odd
Stewart
June 29, 2008 at 9:36 pmYou know, this site can be really annoying – I just wrote a long response, tried to post it, and it said it was too busy to do it – and it’s disappeared now! bah fucking humbug!
Stewart
June 29, 2008 at 9:40 pmBut basically, Sniper’s also in the film, they cut me out, Bob holds up a lighter flame like some girlie having an epiphany at a U2 gig, though he does get to say “bollocks” at least twice, and – did I mention it before? – they cut me out. Plus the whole film in retrospect is hysterical.
Plus that wanker Philip Sallon from the Blitz Kids is in it. But unfortunately nobody slaps him…
Plus they cut me out, which instantly limits its cultural validity and resonance. Obviously.
*sobs*
Stewart
June 29, 2008 at 9:43 pmPlus they cut me out
John Shag one sheep and you're forever John the sheepshagger
June 30, 2008 at 8:25 pmweird I remember seeing that film at the Scala but don’t remember seeing you in it Stew, maybe they cut you out?
Penguin
June 30, 2008 at 8:34 pmYeah I think they did John, that film without Stewey in is pretty good though. Saying that a load of other films without Stewey in are also very good, One Flew Over The Cuckoo Nest, Paris – Texas etc, to name just two.
Stewart
June 30, 2008 at 10:43 pmHa bloody ha…
Jah Pork Pie
July 1, 2008 at 11:30 amTch, tch, you guys…
This is not the place for all this childish and spiteful bickering.
It belongs on the other thread: “Films Stu Was Cut Out Of”.
Stewart
July 1, 2008 at 12:55 pm(*writes down names and addresses on p274 of large black book entitled ‘People to torture, maim and kill when the Revolution comes’*) (Hey, it’s a LONG book, and I’ve had it a LONG time…)
Jah Pork Pie
July 1, 2008 at 1:05 pmThat sounds a lot like the plot of “To Kill A Clown”. Were you on the cutting-room floor of that one, by any chance? 😉
Tony Puppy
July 8, 2008 at 9:52 pmTalking of walking out of cinemas and finding the real world confusing: once I watched a late night double bill of Short Cuts and Mike Leigh’s Naked at the Rio in Hackney.
Both films are over three hours long so it was practically an all nighter. When we left the cinema it dawn was breaking.
At the end of Naked David Thewlis staggers down a short flight of stairs and walks out into the dawn, dazed and confused. The street he walks up is Sandringham Road, and he is actually walking toward the Rio Cinema. and we are staggering out the Rio looking down Sandringham Road and can see the house that moments before was in the film.
Marvellous.
Phil
July 9, 2008 at 10:05 amTony> that house in sandringham road ended up being squatted by Punks!
Gerry Lambe
December 22, 2008 at 10:41 pmAnyone remember a BBC2 Arena prgramme on the making of the film Quadraphenia? We were in it being dressed down by Daltrey after failing the audition for the band in it!
Let me know if you ever come across a copy.
Gerry Lambe
Gerry Lambe
December 22, 2008 at 10:43 pmSorry by the way it would have been 1978 ish, filmed in Camden, Skunks were one of the bands in it.
Thanks
g
chris
January 5, 2009 at 10:26 pmNever even heard of that programme mate but sure it will be up on Google Video or Youtube somewhere. Lots of the other Arena programmes from this period are (I expect it would be around the same time as the Sham & X-Ray Spex ones tho i’d have probably have ‘boycotted’ watching one about Quadrophenia at the time – Mods being “The Enemy” ‘n’all that 😉
There’s probably sites specifically dedicated to Quadrophenia so may be worth checking them out too. Best of luck!
(Always loved that line in the film when Phil Daniels goes to score pills off the wide boy who runs the scrap yard; “You don’t work, you don’t get no money. And I like money”. Classic!! 🙂
Jock Strap.(Johnny Grant)
May 21, 2009 at 3:12 pmHey great comments above.I am writing a book about the punk scene in general, which includes my time in Breaking Glass. I was the young punk at the begining with black spikey hair who was sitting on the table in the pub scene. Yes i was told to zeig heil, but hey we were on good money which really came in handy when you were squating in Brixton. I was also the lead siger of south London punk band The Straps. I am looking for any info that might jog my memories of Breaking Glass. I also noticed that you refered to the Crass gig in Conway Hall which I attended. I have already written about this gig, as I was road crew with Crisis back then. I thought that the gig was in Acklam Hall? Can you confirm. Thanks and nice to meet yoiu guys. Js
Jock Strap.(Johnny Grant)
May 21, 2009 at 4:16 pmBTW Stewart. My mate Dennis set fire to Philip Salons friends hair at the Rainbow, or it might have been the Music Machine, while filming Breaking Glass..coz he/she was blocking his view with the high Jordan type hair. Boy that was funny and did it go up with all the fukin hair spray on it hhahaha…
Sam
May 21, 2009 at 4:40 pmIf you’re talking about the skinhead invasion of Acklam Hall, this was a different time. The girl I was going out with at the time was at that one and said the violence was unbelievable. I was at the Conway Hall one that got invaded. Speeding off my nut.
How strange to hear of your hair lighting story as a female friend of mine saw Phillipe Salon at the Camden Palace in the early eighties, wearing bits of twisted up newspaper in his hair. She set fire to his head. Must have happened to his whole swishy crew at one time or another.
Stewart
May 24, 2009 at 7:47 pmJock Strap: Well, bizarrely, I set light to Philip Sallon’s scarf at Huntingdon Street. I don’t think he came back after that…
Gerry Lambe
September 28, 2009 at 1:56 amHi
We found the Quadraphenia tape!!!
Its on our My Space site now!
Skunksukofficial
Its really funny!!!
Gerry Lambe
The Skunks
Em
August 7, 2010 at 3:53 pmso where’s “slits pictures”?? anybody found it?
Ronnie Raygun
August 9, 2010 at 1:01 pmHmmm. I think Womble (of the Decadent Few) was in Breaking Glass, stepping out of a lift. And Dave Ferguson was on the video cover (and appeared in) Rough Cut & Ready Dubbed – saying that all the good music was coming out of America. There was also a short film called Stepping Out that accompanied Alien circa 1979 which I think featured Marilyn, and also the Mod revival.
Sam
August 10, 2010 at 6:57 amMarilyn and the Mod revival are not often linked.
jock
February 13, 2011 at 11:16 amheres an old docu about the buzzcocks / magazine from the ‘whats on’ weekly show hosted by the late tony wilson, not sure what year it aired, 77/78? some others on the page as well….b’dum b’dum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hox93DETbGo&feature=related
emma
July 16, 2011 at 5:16 amthis discussion is amazing. thank you all for the memories, specially of the Scala! There were some fab all night things at ULU at the time too I recall (gigs, films, what later came to be called “chill out space”). We used to bunk in at ULU by climbing in the dressing room window. I remember once falling into Genesis P. Orridge’s lap and showing him our scientology scoresheets, well before psychic tv… (from tiny acorns!)
Well I’m writing with a question. Does anyone remember a really crap film probably filmed about 1980/1. I was an extra in it, age 14 or 15, queueing to see a gig (Rainbow?) with lots of people from the london punk/new romantic scene (including Philip Salon!) so the crowd may have been a bit blitzy, maybe the band we were going to see was bow wow wow. Then we had to do a lot of pretend dancing in silence. I thought for a second it might have been breaking glass, but I think the film had one name… Con- something maybe? Something with a C. Argh. Can’t find references to it anywhere. Well, maybe it was breaking glass, and maybe I should watch it again to confirm. Does this ring bells with anyone?