Assassins Of Hope – Slowmotion Suicide – 1982 / The Astronauts – Peter Pan Hits The Suburbs – 1981 / Various Artists – Ha Ha Funny Polis – 1981 / Various Artists – Beyond Entertainment – 1984 / Ring – Oh De Dun Dun – 1986

Assassins Of Hope – Slowmotion Suicide

An old cassette release by Assassins Of Hope is uploaded tonight, the only official release that the band sold at gigs. The songs recorded on this one sided cassette tape are as rough as old boots, a screaming holocaust of noise and a whirlwind of shouty vocals.

I like it.

The text below is courtesy of Nuzz

One band missing from Ian Glaspers excellent The Day The Country Died are THE ASSASSINS OF HOPE. The year 1981 the place London, the music anarcho-punk. This is their only recording and it is rougher than a badgers arse, but great with it. Their musical influences ranged from; The Clash, The Mob through to Theatre Of Hate and Del Shannon, not that you’d know it listening to Slowmotion Suicide. Other influences included the punk scene, the angry brigade, seeing the Anarchy Centre at Wapping work and a disillusionment with being on the football terraces. Somewhere along the line they lost their two singers; Peat Protest, Chantal and the Hope.

They found a new singer, and another guitarist and became THE ASSASSINS; musically they changed but lyrically and ideologically they remained the same and you could hear more of their influences in their sound The Ruts spring to mind. They recorded one demo and also a planned single Hell is for Heroes, which was never released. Not only were they a great band in both guises but they were top people. I remember going with ’em (when they were the assassins)to a gig in Oldham where they were supporting The Varukers. The band, the equipment and friends all crammed in the back of some box truck with no windows. They when’t down like a lead balloon with the mohawks. Then there was the time they supported Mercenary Skank and a punk theatre group, also not forgetting a gig they did with The Stingrays.

The Astronauts – Peter Pan Hits The Suburbs side 1

The Astronauts – Peter Pan Hits The Suburbs side 2

The Astronauts were partly responsible for me to start helping out at All The Madmen Records back in 1985. Just one part of a mish-mash roster of bands that included Flowers In The Dustbin, Zos Kia, Blyth Power and of course The Mob.

This the debut album co-released by local record label, Bugle and JB’s Genius Records, set up specifically for the release of this album… Bugle Records had previously released the first two Astronauts 7″ singles.

The album itself has an eclectic range of musical styles pressed into the grooves, with a guest appearance from Nic Turner, taking a break from Inner City Unit, playing his saxophone with gusto on several of the tracks.

Mark Astronauts’s well thought out lyrics are beautiful and impeccably delivered. Marks’ lyrics are always written with feeling and care, and have been that way since the songs have been appearing on cassette tapes and eventually the singles and albums.

The All The Madmen released ‘It’s All Done By Mirrors’ album that followed ‘Peter Pan Hits The Suburbs’ is equally an album of absolute quality.

Fast forward a few years and…

I once visited JB when he was staying in Chesterton Road, just off the Portobello Road in Ladbroke Grove, and he sold me all the ‘Peter Pan’ albums that he still had in a box under his bed.

These were all placed into eager hands as cheaply as I could pass them all on for, and I kept a copy myself. So I still have a mint copy of this record, sitting alongside a copy from years before which is not so mint!

A Discog surf revealed that ‘Peter Pan’ reaches a huge price nowadays, such is the eagerness to have this record in the collections of the folk that would like to add it.

Such a great album.

“It was a different world. We made a few EPs and were suddenly offered the chance to make an album. I’d had various songs (or bit of songs) in my head and when we started to rehearse them it came to me that this was not going to be an album that would be easily defined or marketed. But we pressed on in our collective inexperience and eventually we produced a record. Listening to back to it now I’m struck by its innocence and its hap-hazard ‘anarcho punk’ scene was always going to be essentially peripheral but, nonetheless, that was the movement to which I fell akin, and the songs were a product of that era. Albeit seen through a slightly distorted telescope I would like to thank all the people that made the album. Special mention to Grant Showbiz who managed to harness our aspirations into something tangible and his production was sympathetic and really brings out the ‘vibe’ of the time. Also, thanks to Nik Turner, legendary space-rock saxophone guru. Lastly, I would like to dedicate this re-release to Max, our bassist who passed away a few years after the initial release. Many musicians I currently work with weren’t born until 7 years after the album originally came out, and in my more nostalgic moments I sit by the fire with my pipe and slippers bewildering them with tales of free tours, Zounds, Here & Now, The Mob, Stonehenge, Meanwhile Gardens, Kif-Kif, Jonathan Barnett, squat gigs, Rock Against Racism and much more. It was a different world and I’m afraid it’s not coming back”

Mark Wilkins February 2011

Text below written by Robin Basak of Zero fanzine fame and ripped with love from his Acid Stings site.

Eternal long-haired losers who also have some of the best tunes this semi-legendary band has only released six albums in its long existence but each of them is a bonafide classic. The Astronauts second album ‘All Done By Mirrors’ judged by those who heard it as among the best albums of all time was a stunning collection of explosive pop songs and traditional folk ballads recorded at a time when all their gigs were with anarchist punk bands. Their fifth album ’In Defence Of Compassion’ experimented with ambient house music years before other conventional bands even thought of doing so.

Inspired by the UK punk explosion Mark Astronaut formed the band with a few friends in 1977 and began playing local gigs in their hometown of Welwyn Garden City. By 1979 The Astronauts were regularly appearing at free festivals and gigs in London organised by a hippy collective known as Fuck Off Records and from these began a close friendship with then London based punk bands Zounds and the Mob. That year the first Astronauts EP was released on local label Bugle Records and musically it reflected the hippie drug culture combined with the energy of punk. ‘All Night Party’ still sounds like the paranoid nightmare it did back then. The record established the Astronauts on the local gig scene among the non mainstream hippie/punk/biker crowd. Also in 1979 an EP was released under the assumed name of Restricted Hours on the Stevenage Rock Against Racism label. ‘Getting Things Done’ attacked the political apathy of small town life while ‘Still Living Out The Car Crash’ was musically a typically nightmarish theme.

By 1980 gigs throughout England with Zounds had won over an army of fans and the ‘Pranksters In Revolt’ EP sold all its copies within weeks. Musically the four songs were not as adventurous as the first EP although the lyrics were as incisive as ever. Like many great bands from the post punk era the Astronauts were completely ignored by the UK music press which then as now was only interested in anything trendy, fashionable or middle class. Local fanzine Zero began to champion the band as did the local newspapers.

‘Peter Pan Hits The Suburbs’ album was released in 1981 to widespread acclaim. Incredibly it received great reviews in virtually all the UK music press. The typical Astronauts audience at the time was largely hardcore punks attracted by the energetic gigs and a handful of hippies so the album was something of a surprise. Full of heartfelt folk ballads and featuring legendary saxophonist Nic Turner, the album was not what fans had expected but appealed to a different audience. The contradiction of heavy chaotic punk performances and structured melodic alternative pop/folk/ambient songs continues to this day.

Throughout 1982-1985 there were hundreds of gigs with the many anarcho punk bands of the era and ‘All Done By Mirrors’ was arguably the finest album to date. The ‘Soon’ album featured great songs but was let down by lifeless production while the ‘Seedy Side Of Paul’ album combined a scathing indictment of the 1980’s attitudes of greed with some truly wonderful songs.

Ha Ha Funny Polis side 1

Ha Ha Funny Polis side 2

Uploaded today is a four track E.P from four separate bands from around Paisley, a town slightly west of the city of Glasgow in Scotland.

Listening to the tracks on this E.P, a set of songs that are strongly anti ‘polis’ (police), I realise, how truly wonderful the sound of the bands were. I can only assume that these bands did not get out of Scotland that often, although Mike’s article mentions a gig in Leeds during a showcase tour with all the bands featured on this E.P. If you missed these bands in the flesh back at the dawn of the 1980’s then there was at least a handful of 7″ single releases all based around these bands released on Groucho Marxist records to fall back on.

X.S Discharge is the standout track for me personally.

I do not know a lot about the bands featured on this record, but thankfully Inflammable Material / Defiant Pose main man Mike Clarke does know a bunch, Some of the text from the original KYPP post is written out below.

“The ‘Ha! Ha! Funny Polis’ E.P itself, despite ritual patronizing reviews in the national press and though less gleefully amateurish and individualistic than the debut E.P, wins out through its sheer verve and immediacy. Recorded live in one day again, this time at Sirocco Studios in Kilmarnock, X.S Discharge once more borrowed Snexx drummer Ian Andrews for “Lifted”, the almost endearing tale of police brutality. Defiant Pose shambolically urge local youth to “Fight,” the Fegs posthumously decry the local cop-shop in ‘Mill Street Law And Order”, and Urban Enemies, noted for their on-stage uniform of striped mohair jumpers and ‘the ultimate fat kid street gang member…playing bass’ (Sounds) play a lighter, more melodic punk reminiscent of early Outcasts, with plenty of S.L.F tuneage and plaintive “whoah whoah” vocals, only let down by the painful “because we only wanna rock’n’roll” refrain on the chorus. As with the first E.P there is none of the calculated pretension you might have expected from a similar project originating in London or Manchester. With traditional D.I.Y constraints ever to the forefront, the bands simply plug in and play, first or second take, overdubs / polishing irrelevant. As a whole, the record benefits from a collective theme, and reflects the dynamic, rabble-rousing vision of Tommy Kayes himself. Joe McGlynn remembers driving down to London’s Rough Trade with Kayes and Harris in a car crammed with boxes of the single: “We were stopped and searched in an underground carpark by Special Branch (the I.R.A were busy at the time), they opened all the boxes and I thought our time was up, but they let us go. I don’t know what they were looking for, maybe they didn’t know what ‘Polis’ meant, ha ha! Arriving at Rough Trade, the Spizz Energi single ‘Where’s Captain Kirk?’ had just been released: strangely, that was the name of the top cop in Paisley whom our record was dedicated to. Good old Rough Trade, they took every single copy, agreed to distribute them, AND paid us in cash!”

The full post on KYPP may be looked and listened to HERE

Well worth looking at and listening to.

Beyond Entertainment side 1

Beyond Entertainment side 2

A cassette tape and booklet that I have had in my possession, that I knew very little about until I uploaded the audio up on KYPP in 2008, and Nic Bullen and someone called Andrew both offered a snippet of information for me.

I met Stephen Thrower a few times in the late 1980’s or early 1990’s, as he was the partner (and still is the partner) to my old childhood friend Simon (now known as Ossian Brown) and both have collaborated in Coil, Current 93 and are both active in Cyclobe to this day…

My top tracks on this cassette tape are U.V Pop (sounding a little like Come (the first Whitehouse outfit which was a little more guitar based) with ‘Be Yourself’.

Then a track in a more classic Whitehouse style, from JahaitB2 with the ironic ‘Love Song’.

And my favorite is the hypnotic middle eastern chant-like ‘Why Did Daddy Die’ from the strangely named 391.

Their comments left on the old KYPP post are below.

Possession included Steve Thrower who went on to become a member of Coil during their early period up to 1992 (as well as playing drums on Skullflower’s classic ‘Form Destroyer’ 12″), and now works under the name Cylobe…

He also contributed articles to the 1980’s Euro-Horror-and-Obscurities magazine Shock Xpress which was edited by guitar demon Stefan Jaworzyn whose acid-damaged guitar made the early Skullflower slabs so vital…

Jaworzyn also ran the Shock record label which put out some great releases by Coil, Nurse with Wound, Ramleh, the Blue Humans and Drunks with Guns (one of my all-time favourite bands)…

UV Pop had a single out on Pax Records (recorded at Cabaret Voltaire’s Western Works studio) which released the ‘Wargasm’ comp LP (featuring Flux, Poison Girls, The System, and Dead Kennedys among others) and the first Anti-System ep (total Discharge worship with heavy Animal Rights message)…

I played a couple of concerts (on the same day!) with O Yuki Conjugate back in 1993: one at a festival in Belgium and then at the Paradiso in Amsterdam…There were some great artists playing as well including Rapoon (ex-Zoviet France), Main (ex-Loop) and God (featuring Kev Martin – aka The Bug: ‘London Zoo’ LP is great!) who were absolutely ferocious as usual…

I was in Scorn at the time, and just enjoyed O Yuki’s sets (I didn’t play with them)…We were supposed to play quite late (1 am-ish) in Belgium, but had been double-booked with the gig in Amsterdam, so we played early in the afternoon…

I forgot that Thrower also edited his own Euro-Horror-Sleaze magazine called Eyeball in the later 1980’s: a great source for obscure Italian Giallo films at the time…

Nic Bullen

As a member of O Yuki Conjugate back then – and still now – I can confirm that the Final Image cassette was released by myself along with the late D P Benson on our fledgling label. It was a taster of bands involved in both Final Image and a-mission (ran by Gordon Hope).

Many bands were collaborations of artists and were never heard of again. Some – like O Yuki Conjugate – went on to have “careers” of sorts.

a-mission released O Yuki Conjugate, Fazzini and Possession’s first albums along with a few other classics before disappearing for good into the bowels of the Post Office. As far as I know this was the extent of Thrower’s involvement with Possession.

Final Image released O Yuki Conjugate, Son of Sam and a few others before quitting when Red Rhino took all the profits.

As for the gigs.. the Amsterdam one was a classic, the Belgian one a shambles due to the late hour and the sweat dripping off the ceiling which fused the DAT machine! A couple of us also took to the stage and bongo-ed our way onto a Main track as far as I recall.



Ring – O De Dun Dun side 1

Ring – O De Dun Dun side 2

I saw several performances by Ring, and they were always a decent night out. As were The Cardiacs, a band with a similar musical template to work from.

This YouTube post features Ring’s second demo / album only available on cassette tape. Or at least it was back when I bought it at one of Ring’s gigs in 1986.

I used to have the first demo / album released on Big Banana Productions, a year or so earlier. I cannot find that cassette tape right now though. This second cassette tape was released in 1986 by Ring Mission Control, I assume the bands own label.

I must be honest but I am feeling very very lazy today, so I will add to this text another time. This YouTube post was a rush job for Mick Beadle who leaving a comment requesting it on one of the KYPP pages.

So, I just ripped the text below off of Wiki…

Ring were an English psychedelic rock band active during the 1980’s.

The band is notable for having helped to launch the subsequent musical careers of Robert White (Levitation, The Milk And Honey Band), Michael Tubb (also of The Milk And Honey Band) and Christian Hayes (Cardiacs, Levitation, Dark Star, Mikrokosmos).

The band were noted for their diverse music “blending all manner of riffs and noises” and for their tendency to use circus-style face-paint. This sometimes resulted in them being accused of copying Cardiacs, a fellow musical act of the time that had emerged some years previously and were already renowned for their eclectic and unique sound, as well as their manically exaggerated stagecraft and use of face-paint. Commenting on the Zag And The Coloured Beads homepage, one unidentified member or associate of Ring (allegedly singer Jonny Karma) has admitted that Ring’s final cassette album, Nervous Recreations, sounded “transparently in awe of Cardiacs.”

Ring evolved out of the south London experimental rock scene of the 1980’s and played frequently at London free festivals of the time. The band released three cassette albums and had a shifting line-up in which members used a variety of pseudonyms.

The two consistent core members were Ian “Zag” Faichne (guitar, synthesizer, vocals, percussion) and Robert White (bass, synthesizer, vocals and guitar). Other key members included Bronwen Greaves (synthesizer and vocals) and Mick Oynugulos (drums), both of whom played on the first two cassette albums. Michael Tubb contributed to the middle period of Ring activity, playing guitar on the second cassette album (O De Dun Dun). Greaves and Oynuglos left the band before the third cassette album Nervous Recreations, for which White and Zag were joined by a new line-up including Christian “Bic” Hayes (guitar, synthesizer, vocals), Adrian (percussion) and Stompy and Jonny Karma (vocals).

It is not precisely recorded when Ring came to an end, but it seems likely that the band petered out in 1990 following White and Hayes’ recruitment into Levitation – a band with much more music industry interest (and consequently larger demands regarding time and commitment) than their other projects).

To compliment the audio, I have placed up photographs from the collections of Jen Wilson, Robere Du Bilge Ratte, Janet Henbane and a couple from my collection.

There are black and white photographs of Brougham Road and then squatted bus garage (which was based very near to Brougham Road) in Hackney.

Then there are some colour photographs of members of the Peace Convoy and their vehicles on sites across England.

Thanks to those folks in advance.

Psychic T.V – Manchester Ritz – November 1983 – The debut performance.

Indebted to Alberto Diez for supplying me with this rare footage of the earliest incarnation of Psychic TV. It is quite an extraordinary piece of history for Psychic T.V and Throbbing Gristle followers.

Thank you Alberto.

Below is a review from Steve of the Muh Mur blog who was there on the night.

Thanking him in advance.

Psychic TV live at The Ritz in Manchester, 6th of November 1983, the first Psychic TV live gig…

“It was a rainy day in Manchester”.

Probably was, I can’t remember…I can remember a lot about this night, this unforgettable night. I travelled from Lincoln via Hulme to get to The Ritz. Sean (my Dark Companion) and I were first there.

The demonstrators were just setting up, getting their chants and placards ready .. probably waiting for the coaches from London, but Sean and I just flashed our tickets to the lady on the door and walked in.

Members of Psychic TV were sat across two tables drinking cans of Carling Black Label (white tins with a black stripe back then … always reminded me of the Crystal Palace away strip, but I digress). A passing smile and nod and we headed straight to the bar.

Originally the first ever Psychic TV live gig should have been at Prestwich Mental Hospital with Nico as support, but local council complaints meant it was hastily moved to a nightclub just off the Oxford Road. With my warm pint of lager in a plastic pint pot in hand I spent the evening front centre. The stage makes a good table and the monitors a great place to throw the coat. No Nico at The Ritz.

Looped footage of Jim Jones in action on a makeshift screen stage right. The place slowly filled, the coaches from London arrived. Members of Test Department came to check the on stage equipment. Anticipation. There was a strange climbing frame on the stage, Genesis used it during the performance.

“Don’t Forget Ken, Make It Hurt”. I have never forgotten those words… The performance is magnificent. It hits a lull in the middle, and if I remember rightly this was down to failing equipment. Gen’s bass guitar and Sleazy’s Emulator…but the power of the performance of the material is still quite stunning. “Roman P” and “Oi You Skinhead” shine. During “Oi You Skinhead” Gen leapt from the stage and started accosting the audience. Frightening moment. Do you remember going to gigs and being scared, scared of the performance and the unknown? Great days.

There are Genesis’s stream of conscience poetry bits that are a little cringeworthy. Moments where he tries to embarrass John Gosling for wearing a leather skirt and rambling on about straining “for a poo”….

Alex Fergusson’s sub Velvets guitar meanderings in the background…but these moments pass and the power builds, ends with a cracking “Unclean” into “In The Nursery”.

After The Ritz I must have seen Psychic TV a dozen or more times (not quite 23 though) and they always did great / powerful performances in Manchester.

I would love to hear (crystal clear) recordings of the Guy Fawkes gig at The Hacienda in 1984 and when they appeared at The Royal Northern College Of Music a year later.

Thank You Dad.

Steve Muh Mur

From his blog: HERE

Here is a good piece on the Final Academy Brixton Ritz night held thirteen months before in 1982 HERE

Rockaway Park / All The Madmen Records – Temple Cloud – Somerset – BS39 5BU

I have been to visit Rockaway Park / All The Madmen which is based at Temple Cloud, a small village in Somerset, four times now. Once in 2011, once in 2012, once in 2013 and earlier this year in April, coinciding with Mark’s birthday, and the birthday of my son. Both born on the same date in April.

Along with Dial House (the infamous communal home of Crass) based at North Weald, near Epping in Essex, Rockaway Park is one of the most interesting places I have had the pleasure of visiting.

Mark from The Mob is responsible for the grounds that Rockaway Park is situated on, and Mark is also responsible for the numerous buildings that occupy these grounds up high on a hill surrounded by beautiful countryside.

The buildings were in the main, designed by Mark, and were built using a fair percentage of recycled material. Different sized glass sourced from somewhere or other, wood off-cuts, old and odd doors. Everything about these buildings is awe inspiring. A truly epic undertaking by Mark, with the help of his family, and his friends.

The main building that was built on the land was entwined in some legal wrangling some time ago, culminating in August 2012 with fingers crossed and ending up in a surge of relief as common sense prevailed. All those legal worries are now recent past history thankfully.

There are several activities being held in the living quarters in the mail home, and in the other buildings on the land. There is now regular Yoga classes being held. Metal workshops, woodwork workshops, and there are small units for art workshops being constructed, or possibly already constructed as this post is written several months after I was last there!

The studio / rehearsal space is now active, and the bed and breakfast rooms are very popular.

The scrap yard area is used for the storage of weird and wonderful oddities, as well as genuine scrap. Health and safety regulations taking a back seat, as Mark moves one car or a van onto a shipping container, or placed into, or onto, an old broken tree. Mark thrashing around a scrapyard in a huge fork lift lifting up old battered cars and dumping them in seemingly impossible places (but worth a punt anyway) is a sight to behold.

The kind of activities that boys of all ages would enjoy participating in!

An original Mutoid Waster, Sam Hegarty, has some oddities stored in the scrap yard for his ‘Unfairground’ project. Other like-minded folks store equally weird and wonderful oddities there. Wandering the grounds, I see constructions of (un)beauty.

Everywhere you look, some other guerrilla art or sculpture jumps out at you, whether in the buildings or outside in the grounds.

Mark deals in scrap metal, so there are always old vehicles being torn apart for the recycling of the parts. If you need a part for a vehicle then Mark might be the person to talk to, whether it is an engine part for an obscure truck, or an airplane cockpit, or even a decorative three metre high bomb or two.

Many other new ideas for the use of the buildings and the land are continually being thought of in the collective consequences of the folk involved, so KYPP might be informed of other projects in the near future.

Spray paint artists like Boswell have been busy decorating on some of the buildings. Other spray paint artists are welcome to take a corner not yet used I understand.

Below is a YouTube video of Tarantism (acoustic) with a cover version of ‘Punks With Guns’ originally by PAIN. An old punk song for the first EVER recording from Rockaway Studio. The engineers were Magnus and Lex who may be contacted via Rockaway Park. Details below.

The video was filmed at Rockaway Park, so you can get a view of the grounds there at the time of writing this post…

As with everything at Rockaway Park, the recording studio is built with the old punk D.I.Y attitude.

Get involved yourselves.

Go and visit Rockaway Park, and if this post is of any interest to you, ring one of the telephone numbers below and ask about staying for a day or two in one of the rooms, or book rooms via AirBnB. Vegetarian or vegan breakfast included.

Here are some useful links.

All The Madmen Records HERE

Rockaway Park HERE

The Mob / All The Madmen Facebook HERE

Photographs of Rockaway Park on The Mob / All The Madmen Records Facebook HERE

Rockaway Park Facebook HERE

AirBnB for staying overnight, weekends or longer HERE or HERE or HERE

Wind turbine course HERE

Pilates and yoga HERE

Rockaway Studio HERE

Contact details:

All The Madmen Records
The Quarry
Eastcourt Road
Temple Cloud
BS39 5BU

01761 452 177

07913 657 737

07976 270 598

Below is an older YouTube post, that I put together with some of the photographs that I had taken of Rockaway Park between 2011 and 2013 accompanying audio from a couple of 7″ singles, one by The Mob and one by The Astronauts, that had been released on All The Madmen Records.

The recent singles by The Mob and The Astronauts were both released on the revived All The Madmen record label.

All The Madmen Records are not based in Yeovil any more. Nor in Hackney. Nor in Kings Cross.

All The Madmen Records is now based at Temple Cloud, a village in Somerset between Bristol and Bath.

I liked these two singles that were released back in 2012 and 2013, so I decided to upload them onto YouTube.

My photographs that accompanying the ‘video’ are just a small selection that were taken during my visits from 2011 to 2013, and hopefully will give you a glimpse of the buildings and the truly beautiful land that surrounds those buildings.

Track listing for this YouTube post:

The Mob: Nothing You’ve Got I Want
The Astronauts: Typically English Day (original)
The Astronauts: New Dixie Land Blues (re-recorded)
The Astronauts: Typically English Day (re-recorded)
The Mob: Rise Up

Get involved yourselves.

Another Green World – A Real Kavoom – 1984 / The Mob – Arnheim – June 1979 / Misty In Roots – People Unite Records & Black Slate – Slate Records – 1978 – Flux Of Pink Indians – Hartham Common – May 1983 / Rising Free compilation – Androidia Flux – 1984 / Vagina Dentata Organ – World Satanic Network Systems – 1984

Another Green World side 1

Another Green World side 2

Another Green World, a band named after the seminal Eno album from 1975, were Paul Chousmer and Dan Carpenter.

This duo were also members of Webcore, at the same time. In Webcore, Paul was on the keyboards, and Dan was the saxophone player.

Based in Cornwall, Another Green World and Webcore were at the start of a new generation of younger individuals who were interested in psychedelia, free festivals, spiritualism, magic mushrooms, body piercings, dreadlocks and travelling around on converted buses.

This movement eventually got tagged as New Age Travelers in the press, or as the Peace Convoy by the actual participants themselves.

Another Green World originally formed to perform the early morning chill outs at a regular Ozric Tentacles / Webcore venue Alice In Wonderland based underground at Gossips in W1 in 1983.

The duo headlined the opening night at Molly’s Cafe, the squatted City Limits building on Upper Street, Islington. They performed in an outside courtyard, all candle lit with the audience sitting down.

Another Green World and Webcore were both regulars at the early Club Dog events. The first Club Dog venue was based in Wood Green, but a year or so later, Club Dog found it’s spiritual home at the Sir George Robey in Finsbury Park, and the ‘trip’ continued there for several years.

Other than the Club Dog nights, I saw Another Green World (and Webcore) perform several times in various squats and venues around the city. The Mankind Club (Kerouacs) above Hackney Central station, the Jungle Records building (at that point squatted) in Islington, and the 121 Club and Bookshop in Brixton, another squat, being three of the more memorable occasions.

The cassette tape uploaded tonight on YouTube is the first Another Green World release, and is ambient and quite soothing. The duo went on to release several records and C.D’s, and the duo performed throughout the latter part of the ’80’s and through the ’90’s, notably at Whirl-Y-Gig psychedelic events based in Kings Cross.

The Real Kavoom cassette tape imprint, that this Another Green World album was released on, was also known for the first two cassette tape albums by Webcore, released in 1984 and 1985. Jungle Records released two further Webcore albums on vinyl and a 12″ single a couple of years later in 1987 and 1988.

Phil Pickering, the bassist of Webcore and Vane, was the man behind A Real Kavoom. He was also a member of Goat, a band that had the first cassette tape, and the only record released on A Real Kavoom in 1982. The vinyl released with the support of Fresh Records.

Goat were an electronica band, similar to Cabaret Voltaire in parts, that had some connection with Cuddly Toys. I think Sean Purcell was writing and recording with the band.

Three members of Webcore, the bassist (Phil Pickering), drummer and the keyboard player (Paul Chousmer) were also in a Chelmsford based band Vane.

Vane were active from 1979 to 1982.

Vane were named after the vocalist James Vane who had entered the music world in 1976 as lead singer of a cover band called The Void. He later played with unrecorded punk group, The Straights, and with Powerpop combo The Gents.

James Vane managed to get two records released on Island records ‘Judy’s Come Down’ produced by Mike Oldfield no less, and ‘Glamorous Boys’, but alas I do not own either of these artifacts.

A cassette tape by Vane was posthumously released by A Real Kavoom that I do own. Five tracks of funky bass backing up flanged guitar lines, trippy keyboards, with vocals reminiscent of Peter Murphy of Bauhaus crossed with David Sylvian of Japan.

To compliment the Another Green World audio, I have placed up photographs from the collections of Jen Wilson, Robere Du Bilge Ratte, Janet Henbane and a couple from my collection.

There are black and white photographs of Brougham Road and the squatted bus garage (which was based very near to Brougham Road) in Hackney.

There are some colour photographs of members of the Peace Convoy and their vehicles on sites across England.

Thanks to those folks in advance.

The Mob – Arnheim – 1979

A mixing desk cassette tape of a performance by The Mob and a good example of the set list at that time in 1979.

The mini European tour that this gig was included on, was with Here And Now and a bus load of other support acts, including Zounds.

I have a mixing desk cassette tape of The Mob in Amsterdam recorded on the 5th June 1979 that may be listened to below.

The songs performed at this gig in Arnheim were written way before the ‘peace punk’ tag that The Mob carried around until the end of 1983, and that the band are better known for.

These songs will surprise many listeners. Some of these songs did end up being recorded cheaply and placed onto various compilation cassette tapes, released on Jonathan Barnett’s ‘Weird Tales’ cassette imprint.

Jonathan Barnett was a one time roadie for Here And Now, Zounds and several other ‘free festival’ bands of that era. He was also in charge of Genius Records, a record label that were responsible (in part) for releasing the debut Astronauts album ‘Peter Pan Hits The Suburbs’.

Many of the songs performed are raw and basic, although a few of the songs in the early set, did make it through until the end of 1983. Namely ‘What’s Going On?’, ‘Youth’, and ‘The Mirror Breaks’. Of course those songs are still included in The Mob’s set in the 2000’s.

Most songs performed at this gig, and throughout this era, were jettisoned in favour of the newer songs that were being written, eventually ending up on the album, ‘Let The Tribe Increase’ and of course’ No Doves Fly Here’.

Grant Showbiz, from Street Level studios, can be heard on the mixing desk mic. Mark, an able guitarist, Curtis a solid bassist and one shit hot drummer in Graham Fallows, who also sings a few of the tracks.

Enjoy the audio on this YouTube post, but, be wary, if you are hoping for the songs that later ended up on the ‘Let The Tribe Increase’ album, then prepare to be disappointed!

I have placed my copy of the first All The Madmen fanzine, the pages that seemed to have been cut off from scanning are not cut off by the scanning, that’s how my copy was printed, so not my fault!!!

The original artwork painted by Wilf for The Mob is from Joanne’s collection.

Also Andy Tuck supplied the stencil of The Mob.

Misty In Roots side 1

Misty In Roots side 2

Black Slate side 1

Black Slate side 2

The two debut 12″ singles from two heavyweights of the U.K roots scene. Misty In Roots and Black Slate.

These two 12″ singles find both bands on top of their game, all four tracks are massive, massive, massive. If you missed that, I’ll repeat it for you. Massive. Decent Sound System fodder.

Which reminds me. Myself and Kevin (ex Conflict) had a little Thursday roots reggae evening residency at the White Hart in Clapton, a pub next door to the old Dougies (later on known as Pegasus) night club. A night club of some danger in it’s time. A number of stabbings and shootings there, along the top of what was dubbed ‘Murder mile’. I was spinning a track off of the Black Slate album of dub mixes released on Top Ranking records (released in 1982) and a man came over from the bar and started chanting on the microphone, which we barely used. The man was quite good. We asked him who he was after his little chanting. He said he was a member of Black Slate when the record was recorded. Anthony Brightly. Myself and Kevin were a little bit in awe at that point, but carried on regardless after picking up our jaws from the floor.

Misty In Roots have played together for the past twenty years, first coming together in 1975 and working as a backing band for the late, great Nicky Thomas – one of Jamaica’s all time greats who had achieved national chart success with songs such as “Living In The Land Of The Common People”.

Nicky Thomas was the inspiration from which Misty developed.

By 1978 Misty In Roots began to develop their own orthodox roots reggae sound. Their powerful lyrics inspired by the economic decline, a growing awareness of their African culture and a spiritual awakening inspired tracks as “Ghetto Of The City”, “Sodom And Gomorrah” and “Mankind” all off which can be found on the band’s first album “Live At The Counter Eurovision”.

During the period 1977/78 the political situation in the U.K. was a breaking point. Black consciousness was at its peak and racism roamed the streets of London. Unemployment was affecting both black and white youths and through this depression a new musical alliance was born, young white youths totally fed up with the status-quo turned to playing punk music whilst at the same time identifying strongly with the British reggae acts as Misty In Roots, Steel Pulse, Black Slate and Aswad. With the coming of the ‘Rock against Racism’ movement the musical fight-back had begun and for the first time black and white musicians were playing together on the same platform bringing about a totally new concept in musical awareness.

Misty In Roots, one of the most powerful live reggae acts to have come out of London and noted for their powerful roots reggae sound and uncompromising lyrical vibrations, became the major force in Rock Against Racism, playing more concerts than any other band in the movement. This opened up a whole new audience for the band who quickly developed a very strong cross over audience, playing with acts such as Tom Robinson, The Ruts and Elvis Costello.

Despite Misty In Roots huge success as a live act the band did not release their first album until 1979. The album “Live At The Counter Eurovision”, which was recorded live in Belgium during the band’s 1978 tour, is today still proclaimed by many critics as the best live reggae album of all time.

Black Slate was formed in 1974, and included musicians from England, Jamaica, and Anguilla. They were backing band for Delroy Wilson and Ken Boothe on their UK appearances.

The band had their first reggae-chart hit themselves in 1976, with the anti-mugging song “Sticks Man”.

The band also lined up with Disco Reggae Band under Disco Reggae Band & Black Slate. The record hit the Dutch and Flemish charts as well, after being an underground hit in Antwerp discothèques.

The band toured the UK for the first time in 1978, and formed their own TCD label, having a minor hit with “Mind Your Motion”.

The band also backed Dennis Brown when he played live in the UK, and in 1980 their Rastafarian rallying call, “Amigo”, was picked up by Ensign Records, and broke into the UK Singles Chart.

The follow-up, “Boom Boom” was also a hit, though less successful.

An album, Sirens In The City, followed on Ensign the following year.

Flux Of Pink Indians – Hartham Common – 1983

A NOTE: The first four minutes of this audio is taken up by National Front members having a ‘debate’ with members of Flux Of Pink Indians on the stage. Flux do start performing four minutes in, although it is worth listening to the ‘debate’!

A great afternoon out in a Hertford park for a peace festival organised by Hertford and Ware C.N.D.

Plenty of bearded folk bands playing forever and ever, so long in fact that my younger brother’s band at the time, Necro, and another punk band, Strontium 90, were told that they could not be fitted onto the bill after all.

So a little disappointed and clutching unused guitars and drum sticks, we all settled down to witness D&V perform a short set in a truck being used as the ‘stage’.

Then up stepped Flux Of Pink Indians to perform in the very same truck witnessed by about forty or fifty people.
Some were into the performance. Some wanted to cause trouble during the performance. Some were just half interested in the performance.

There were about fifteen school boy ‘punks’, friends of Necro and Strontium 90.
There were about fifteen National Front members from Harlow and Hertford.
There were about fifteen random members of the general public, who wandered to the ‘stage’, and then wandered away, due to Flux not being Wham, or whichever band was popular with some of the youth in those days.

A couple of the ‘Fronters’ were amazingly allowed (amazing due to supposed time limitations that was the excuse for my younger brothers band not performing!) to debate the pros and cons of nuclear weapons at the start of this set… All with the ‘permission’ of Colonel Blimp (Derek Birkett) who looked on bewildered, while adding some wiser words to the ‘debate’!

The recording quality is not that great – a bit of chatter during some of the tracks – sorry, and sadly I seem to have recorded over the B-side of the cassette tape so a few tracks are missing from the recording of this performance.

My younger brothers band mate, drummer Tim Voss recorded the performance on the day. Hopefully he has the full recording.

Tim’s memories:

“I organised the music for this festival.The ‘stage’ was a lorry blagged from the lorry park near the old Hertford cinema by an enterprising member of C.N.D (there was a crate of beer in it for the driver).

I believe the festival had been targeted by the National Front who had previously organised annual marches in nearby Harlow and had a scary presence at a number of local punk gigs. If you remember the boneheads dropped a chair onto Rob’s (my younger brother) head at an Adicts gig in Stevenage Bowes Lyon House.

The National Front also stopped a Conflict gig in Hoddesdon, another gig that Necro should have performed at!

Quite a few of the local ‘Fronters’ did end up doing time at her Majesty’s pleasure, although not for Nazi related activity, usually just being bad thieves and moronically violent.

I also found out that a wedding in the church at the top of hill in Bengeo had to be stopped during the service due to the noise of this gig”.

More on this day, and this gig, and the small local scene may be viewed on this KYPP post here along with downloads of the three local bands HERE

Well worth a read and a listen.

The images that accompany the audio are from my collection, and the local newspaper cutouts from (I think) Bill’s collection.

Bill is the guy photographed at the front of the march in one of the newspaper photographs holding the ‘HER’ banner. HER-tford C.N.D. The other newspaper photograph is some bonehead on the ‘stage’.

The last few seconds of the audio has an image of my younger brother and myself circa 1982. I have the black and white mohair jumper and white jeans on…

Side 1

Side 2

This rare cassette tape, is from the same VISA / ??? Flux label as the KUKL cassette tape that I recently uploaded onto YouTube.

This cassette tape is on Androidia / Flux and KUKL was on Rebel Flux both subsidiaries of VISA.

This cassette tape features live concert performances, I assume from the same live concert in Paris, by D&V, Bérurier Noir, Faction and Subhumans.

I know about D&V, I know about Faction. I also know about Subhumans. I knew less than nothing about Bérurier Noir until two minutes ago, after an internet search.

This description of the band is worthy of placing up on the limit character limit allowed on YouTube.

Bérurier Noir is a French punk band formed in Paris in 1981 by Laurent “Loran” Katrakazos (guitar), François Guillemot (vocals) and Dédé (drum machine). They called themselves “noir” (black) for the color of mourning (because their first concert was planned to be also their last) and for anarchy and “Bérurier” after the character from the novels of Frédéric Dard. Instead of being an end, the success of their first show inspired them to continue. A cult band, Bérurier Noir were loved by a generation of youth and feared by concert organisers for the riots that followed their shows.

On the one hand, Bérurier Noir’s music was clearly derived from British punk rock as far as music and lyrics were concerned. Most of their songs were short, aggressive and usually based on a couple of basic power chords. Their lyrics reflected the typical concerns of punks such as the rejection of consumerism, politics and traditional social order and the anger felt by disaffected youth, tramps and outsiders in general. On the other, they added some interesting innovations. Their rhythm section consisted of a cheap (but still more reliable than a drummer) drum machine, which became an essential and arguably endearing part of their sound. The frequent use of a saxophone as of the mid-1980s also set them apart from most other punk rock bands.

They would regularly appear on record sleeves and on stage wearing clown outfits, mock police uniforms or pig masks. Their shows were a unique and highly festive cross between a punk rock concert, a grotesque circus and an anarchist rally.


In the early 1980’s, the punk movement lived its second life, and that was also true in France, where an early and intense first wave had failed to garner attention. A couple of bands, most of which survived for a long time, made this second movement truly exciting, and Bérurier Noir remains the most famous and respected of those. Fists and red-and-black flags raised, this gang of anarchist clowns was the perfect example of independence and social conscience.

Musically, even though band members were numerous on-stage, they took on the guitar/beat box formula initiated by Metal Urbain, simply adding saxophone riffs now and then, leaving plenty of space for their political and social slogans.

Their career began in 1981, but they truly gained massive recognition with the release of a first studio album, 1984’s Macadam Massacre. It was followed by two other albums, Concerto Pour Detraques (1985) and Abracadabraboum (1987), plus a bunch of EPs. But it’s safe to say that Béru (as they are often called), was much more a live act than anything else. Their concert tickets were as cheap as possible, and each member had his own day job to enable complete independence for their musical venture. In 1988, some of the band members were suspected of a terrorist related activity, and even though they were quickly found innocent, the band’s career had received a severe frontal shock. After the release of Souvent Fauche in 1989, Béru called it a day.

If you know Bérurier Noir, but in the unlikely event, know nothing of D&V, Faction or Subhumans then feel free to follow my lead, and look them up on the internet.

Another plus side to internet searches is ending up on Discogs.

This cassette tape and the KUKL one I placed up recently command high prices, especially with all the booklets and inserts.

As both mine have, from purchase in the early – mid 1980’s.


Side 1

Side 2

Calanda is a small remote village in the Teruel province (situated in the center of the region of Aragon) where once a year, one of the most beautiful pagan festivals in the western world is celebrated.

Anyone can participate in “La Rompida De La Hora” in Calanda. The festival attracts thousands of people, the population of the village, and many hundreds of visitors from across Spain and the world.

For the public to participate in the festival, they must wear ornamental purple robes and hoods.

The robe and hood is similar in style to the Klu Klux Klan outfits that are worn by Klans-men in the southern states of America. Some participants to the festival have Carbine muskets attached to their persons, for show, not for use.

Elderly and young men and woman and children of all ages interpret the different rhythms when beating the drums.The groups gather around the local church, take up their drums, form bands spontaneously, and start producing more or less arbitrary rhythms.

This ritual jamming takes off at noon on Good Friday and ends exactly one day later on Easter Saturday. For twenty four hours and without pauses or orchestrated compositions, bands of drummers dwell through the streets of Calanda.

When one band meets another band, they start dueling, until all drummers find themselves in agreement with a certain rhythm. After their encounter and mutual jamming, the bands move on and prepare themselves for the next battle.

A masterful description of the deep experience of hearing and beating the drums at Calanda had been given by the film maker Luis Bunuel.

“Toward noon on Good Friday the drummers gather in the main square opposite the church and wait there in total silence. When the first bell in the church tower begins to toll, a burst of sound, like a terrific thunderclap, electrifies the whole village. All the drums explode at the same instant. A sort of wild drunkenness breaks out among the players; they beat for two hours until the procession forms, then it leaves the square. When two groups beating two different tempos meet at one of the village crosses, they engage in a duel which may last as long as an hour – or until the weaker group relents and keep the victor’s rhythm. By the early hours of Saturday morning, the skin of the drums is stained with blood, through the beating hands belonging to villagers, and visitors. As the bell tolls the noon hour, the drums suddenly fall silent, but even after the rhythms of the daily life have been re-established, some villagers still speak in an oddly halting manner, an involuntary echo of the beating drums…”

Jordi Vall’s World Satanic Network Systems have released other recordings on vinyl which are all extremely rare:


All you hear on both sides of this album is the wild growl of a real dog trained to kill. It’s violent and cruel. A passionate, and desperate appeal to murder. I call it poetry without rhetoric.

In 1984, Spanish TV invited Derek Jarman, Psychic TV and Vagina Dentata Organ to perform on a live TV programme in Madrid called ‘La Eldad De Oro’.

We all had live interviews. Derek showed his short films, Psychic TV played a long live set together with monumental videos on magick occultism.

At the end of the two hours I (Vagina Dentata Organ) closed the night performing ‘Music For Hashishins’, on an emulator, with sixteen real, very nervous Alsatian dogs tied on a leash to the stage. At the same time I destroyed three large paintings by Casademont – a well-known Catalan artist – with a market value of 6,000 pesos.

I slashed the paintings with with two long iron scimitars with great effect, because hidden behind each canvas we hanged small plastic blood-bags that got splattered all over the place.

Pandemonium broke loose. It was the end of this arts TV programme.

Next day there was an outcry on the Spanish national press. We were accused of violence and obscenity.

Right-wing politicians put pressure on the state run Spanish TV, and ‘La Eldad De Oro’ was closed down for ever.


I got the tapes through Monte Cazzaza in California, and Genesis P-Orridge in London. It’s the live recordings of the last moments of life while they are drinking poison and dying at the Peoples Temple in Jonestown, Guyana. Over nine hundred men, women and children died. It’s a picture-disc with graphic photos of dead bodies from the massacre. For sure, this is the greatest rock and roll record ever made.


We recorded the live sound and made this unique picture-disc. As a personal tribute to Calanda’s blood scented nights. About thirty copies only of this picture disc album, contain encapsulated freeze-dried, sterilised human bloodstains, from my (Vagina Dentata Organ) ripped flesh.

KUKL – VISA – Rebel Flux – 1984 / MARS – Infidelity Records – 1980 / Chalwa Dub – Chalwa Records – 1978 / Dormannu – Illuminated Records – 1983 / Zos Kia – Temple Records – 1985 / Danny Ray & Mexicano – 1977

KUKL – side 1

KUKL – side 2

A very rare cassette tape by KUKL featuring future Sugarcube and now respected solo artist Bjork.

This KUKL performance was recorded in September 1984 somewhere in Paris and was released on VISA / Rebel Flux cassettes in 1985.

KUKL were an Icelandic group created in Reykjavik in August 1983 with Einar Örn Benediktsson (vocals, earlier in Purrkurr Pillnikk); Björk Guðmundsdottir (vocals, earlier in Tappi Tikarrass); Guðlaugur Kristinn Ottarsson (guitar, earlier in PEYR); Birger Mogensen (bass, earlier in Killing Joke) ; Einar Melax (keyboards, earlier in Van Houtens Koko) and Sigtryggur Baldursson (drums, earlier in PEYR).

Originally the group was a project based on an idea by among others, Asmundur Jonsson from Gramm Records in Reykjavik.

They debuted live on Icelandic radio and performed at the “We demand the future” festival in Reykjavik in 1983 with Crass and a host of other Icelandic bands.

In 1984 they performed with Psychic TV in Reykjavik and then travelled to England to perform with Flux of Pink Indians and other anarcho bands.

KUKL recorded at Southern Studios in London during January 1984. The tracks were engineered by John Loder and produced by Penny ‘Lapsang’ Rimbaud of Crass. Later the same year they played at concerts in several European countries including this performance in Paris.

In June 1985 the band performed at the Roskilde Festival in Denmark and later the same year at some concerts in Iceland where they played with Megas, the ‘grand old man’ of Icelandic rock.

At the turn of the year 1986 they released the two albums that had been recorded previously at Southern Studios on Crass Records.

KUKL’s music is complex and rhythmic, and a mixture of punk, rock, jazz, and more experimental music, with the lyrics sometimes in English, and sometimes in Icelandic.

KUKL were a powerful and personal band combining qualities from three important groups in Icelandic rock from the beginning of the eighties.

Here is the KYPP post that has the audio of KUKL’s debut performance at the ‘We Demand The Future’ festival, along with the audio of the other bands that performed on the night including Crass HERE

The visuals for this YouTube post include the scan of the sixteen page booklet that accompanied the cassette tape.

KUKL’s debut 7″ single may be listened to on this KYPP post HERE

MARS – side 1

MARS – side 2

A right racket masquerading as art, this 12″ extended play record by MARS has few redeeming features, save the amount it could fetch on Discogs.***

For best results invite a friend round, give him or her a microdot, put this on loud, then wait around for a bit.

The tracks included on this record were recorded in 1978 but released in 1980 a little while after Brian Eno took an interest in the No Wave scene in New York.

Eno was interested enough to produce the ‘No New York’ album which contained tracks by The Contortions, Teenage Jesus And The Jerks and D.N.A as well as MARS.

That release is the only decent starting point for an introduction to this scene for anyone who gives a rat’s arse…The scene was small, did not last more that a year or two but gave a fair amount of inspiration to artists later on down the line, like Jim Foetus and Nice Cave.

*** The tracks on this record are not that bad if you can handle SPK, Whitehouse or Throbbing Gristle which thankfully I CAN!

Some history:

Sumner Crane grew up in Queens, New York and studied painting at the Art Students League of New York, under abstract expressionist Milton Resnick, together with Nancy Arlen, who studied sculpting. Nancy Arlen was from upstate New York or Pennsylvania. Nancy and Sumner were about the same age. Constance -Connie- Burg grew up in Ohio and studied at Eckerd College in St. Petersburg, Florida.

School: “I (Mark Cunningham) grew up in the New Jersey suburbs and spent my teenage late sixties years tripping out in the Village (N.Y.C) at the Electric Circus and the Fillmore East. From September 1970 to 1974 I went to college at a freak school, Eckerd College in St. Petersburg, Florida that was probably like a lot of other arty type schools of the time. My first day there I met Arto Lindsay (later DNA), this strange kinda nerdy looking kid from Virginia who had grown up in Brazil. We immediately conspired to get rid of our assigned roommates and roomed together for the following four years and soon hooked up with other like minded music and word freaks and started jamming. We had no technique and no rules, worshipped the beats and Miles, Warhol and the Velvets… Later additions to the scene were Mark Pauline (later Survival Research Laboratories) Connie Burg (later known as China Burg), Gordon Stevenson (later Teenage Jesus), Mirielle Cervenka (Exene´s sister), and Liz and Bobby Swope (later Beirut Slump)…”

Move to New York: “In 1974 several of us (Cunningham, Burg, Lindsay) decided to head for N.Y.C (East Village, on Avenue B and Tenth Street), like so many other college grads and dropouts of the time. We knew something had to be happening there. It didn’t take us long to find C.B.G.B’s. We hit it for one of the first Television shows and it blew us away. We became regulars and saw the beginning of that whole generation of bands. In 1974 and 1975 it was really just a local underground scene but as Talking Heads and Patti Smith, The Ramones and Television released albums it started to get a lot more popular and the bands lost some of their original energy going for whatever formula they felt they had found. So at this point we all started thinking we could give that new blast that the scene needed. Then on the one hand you had the burgeoning punk scene which included a lot of boring rock bands and on the other this new bunch of very amateur groups looking for any sound that was different and cool. MARS (at that point in time named China) started in December 1975 really but we spent a year playing in a loft before we went public as China”.

Mark Cunningham – interviewed by Weasel Walter.

Chalwa Dub side 1

Chalwa Dub side 2

Uploaded tonight is an extremely rare album entitled ‘Calling 1000 Dreadlocks’ on the very short lived Chalwa record label from Kingston, Jamaica.

Involved in the recording sessions were Lloyd Parks studio band, Skin Flesh And Bones, alongside Augustus Pablo with his melodica and flute, Dave Barker and Dennis Alcapone on vocals and dub-chatter.

King Tubby was mixing, Clem Bushay was producing and supposedly Alton Ellis was overlooking everything generally.

There is no sleeve artwork for my copy of this album, it never appeared with any artwork for the original release as far as I know, just a thick white sleeve complete with a sticker with a little more information upon it. This release was limited to only five hundred copies from it’s release date in the 1970’s.

Some history.

Lloyd Parks performed with the Invincibles band (whose members also included Ansell Collins, Sly Dunbar and Ranchie McLean) before teaming up with Wentworth Vernal in The Termites.

In 1967, they recorded their first single, ‘Have Mercy Mr. Percy’, and then an album ‘Do the Rocksteady’ for Coxsone Dodd’s Studio One label.

After recording ‘Rub Up Push Up’ for the Dampa label, Parks and Vernal split up.

Parks then briefly joined The Techniques as a replacement for Pat Kelly, recording tracks such as ‘Say You Love Me’, before embarking on a solo career and later starting his own label, Parks. His second single was the classic ‘Slaving’, a moving song about the struggles of a working man.

In 1974, he founded the We the People Band.

As a solo artist, he recorded a number of songs for Prince Tony Robinson, including ‘Trench Town Girl’ and ‘You Don’t Care’. Some of his best known solo hits include ‘Officially’, ‘Mafia’ (both 1974), ‘Girl In The Morning’ and ‘Baby Hang Up The Phone’ (both 1975).

Parks was a studio bass player, backing many of the reggae artists, including Justin Hinds on Duke Reid’s Treasure Isle label. He was a member of Skin Flesh and Bones, along with Ansell Collins on keyboards, Tarzan on keyboards, and Ranchie MacLean on guitar. This group backed Al Brown on his hit ‘Here I am Baby’, and many other artists.

When Skin Flesh and Bones started backing up artists for Channel One Studios, Parks renamed the band The Revolutionaries.
Parks was also a member of Joe Gibbs’ house band, The Professionals, performing hits such as Althea & Donna’s ‘Up Town Top Ranking’, also backing artists including Dennis Brown, The Abyssinians, The Itals, The Gladiators, Culture and Prince Far I.

Dormannu side 1

Dormannu side 2

Based in the Squats of Brixton, south London and mates of Sex Gang Children, Danse Society and the Skeletal Family, this bunch could certainly out-funk most of the goths, unfortunately it left the band with a slight identity crisis. The goths of the day not knowing whether to dance to the percussion led beat, a la Adam And The Ants, or to stand around posing.

Dormannu had several line up changes, notably the vocalist of the band for this record, Chicken Mike, who was elbowed out for his continued use of the subject matter described quite well on the A-side, ‘Powdered Lover’. Heroin.

Some of the original Dormannu members put the effort into a new band, Lets Wreck Mother, who were a regular band at Gossips in the central London, for a while the home of the Batcave club. Maybe I will whack that Lets Wreck Mother 12″single up soon.

Following after this 7″ single, a 12″single, ‘Dread’ was released, and a couple of years later, an album, ‘Return To Quebec’. Then Dormannu disappeared.

Illuminated Records was a fine record label around the time of Dormannu (the record label released all of the Dormannu records). On the label’s roster were artists and bands as diverse as; 400 Blows, Sex Gang Children, Throbbing Gristle, Car Crash International, 23 Skidoo, Poison Girls, D.A.F, Television Personalities, The Destructors and many many more.

“I was half of Illuminated Records at the time of ‘Powdered Lover’. Kid Jensen played it on release with a truly great build-up. It sounded fantastic, just a shame the lyrics of a debut single and their best tune, were so overtly a hard-drug paean – that should come after the band is tortured by success.
They had a lot going for them, looks, funk, proto-rap. They should have stayed more close to the ‘cult with no name’ than the goths. At least they were more likely to forgive shambolic gigs as a statement, although Dormannu did support Danse Society on a tour, quite good gigs. I remember the old Dominion, Tottenham Court Road.
I remember the squat in Brixton. Keith and I had to pick the band’s gear up from somewhere the day after a gig. No-one home so (possibly for the only recorded instance) we had to break into a squat via a window to return property”.


Zos Kia side 1

Zos Kia side 2

Zos Kia’s essential second vinyl release, and the first to be released on the Temple record label run by Genesis P-Orridge of Psychic T.V.

This clear vinyl copy was given to me from a box that he had stashed away for mail order customers in his Beck Road base in Hackney.

This record was played to death at the time. The track ‘Be Like Me’ being a real foot stomper with a funky overtone and a guitar line reminiscent of ‘Public Image’, the debut single from Public Image Limited.

The foot stomping starts after a couple of minutes of pleasant piano introduction, the piece that continues throughout the song, hidden under the percussive instruments, funky bass line and general noise.

The lyrics, almost line for line, are courtesy of the Reverend Jim Jones, the infamous leader of the San Francisco’s Peoples Temple.

The followers of the San Francisco’s Peoples Temple, as well as the Reverend Jim Jones himself, met a sudden and violent end in November 1978. More than 900 Temple members committed suicide by drinking poisoned juice, the followers that did not want to go through with the sacrifice were shot (along with the killings of five other people at a nearby airstrip) by the Temples ‘guards’ in the jungle clearing of ‘Jonestown’, Guyana.

The San Francisco’s Peoples Temple was at that point based on that continent after leaving San Francisco under intense F.B.I scrutiny.

The lines making up ‘Be Like Me’ was part of a Reverend Jim Jones speech that was made during the mass suicide.

The B-side, ‘Ten Miles High’, is a short noise festival which I guess is, ahem, very loosely based on ‘Eight Miles High’ by The Byrds. Save a snippet of a guitar sound lifted from that famous song from the 1960’s, there is nothing to compare the two songs.

Zos Kia are verging towards Lou Reed’s ‘Metal Machine Music’ era rather than the flower power of the late 1960’s Los Angeles.

The repetitive loop at the end of ‘Ten Miles High’ is exactly that. A loop that continues until you lift up the stylus on the turntable.

I cut it short of course.

Play this record at maximum volume and then some…

The George Best photographs on either side of the sleeve artwork, I have no clue about, unless it is to entice the purchaser to ‘be like’ him, a hidden visual message to camouflage the Reverend Jim Jones speech. I might have just made that up, but it would have been in line with some visual and audio hidden meanings in Psychic T.V and their allies published books, pamphlets or record releases.

More Zos Kia posts may be listened to and viewed below.

The word ‘enjoy’, might not be right term to use for Zos Kia, but whatever…

Danny Ray – Revolution Rock

Mexicano – Dub Rock

The Clash were extremely inspirational to me growing up, and whatever you might think about the band, one thing that cannot be denied is the band’s real love of Black music and culture, reggae music was no exception.

If it was not for The Clash promoting authentic reggae via name-drops in the media or some lyrics, or on original compositions like ‘Bank Robber / Rockers Galore’ or covering some of the songs of the day, thousands of people, like me, might not have been touched by this music.

Sure there were other bands around that time including the odd reggae based song into their repertoire, Stiff Little Fingers for example. The Clash did attempt ‘Police And Thieves’ and ‘Pressure Drop’ in a more punked up style, a couple of years prior to me going out and buying records. But when it came to 1979, The Clash found out that they were far from just a ‘punk’ band. With Mickey Gallagher and other musicians and artists in tow, the band recorded the sessions that would result in the formidable ‘London Calling’ album, deep down in Highbury, North London.

On the ‘London Calling’ album, one of the highlights (for me anyway) was the band’s version of Danny Ray’s ‘Revolution Rock’.

In 1977, a record was released in Jamaica on High Note Records and in the U.K on Golden Age Records (the record label run by members of the, during that time U.K based, Pioneers). This record released was ‘Git Up’ (sic) voiced by the old Jamaican legend Jackie Edwards. Jackie Edwards had been around since the 1950’s, and had helped Chris Blackwell organise Island Records at a time when Blackwell was selling records out of the back of his Austin Mini Seven.

Hope he got his cut further on down the line for helping to build an musical empire that is still a massive presence today…Probably not.

A much younger vocalist (and less well known in Roots than his favoured U.K. Lovers Rock circles) Danny Ray voiced this rhythm in the same year, released in Jamaica on High Note Records and on the Doctor label in the U.K, a subsidiary of Golden Age Records.

This cut was ‘Revolution Rock’. This is the version that The Clash covered.

Eddy Grant’s brother, Mexicano was taken into Coach House studios in Stoke Newington, to voice the D.J cut, again on the same rhythm and released on Pioneer Records.

This is ‘Dub Rock’.

Sadly I only have the Jackie Edwards version of this rhythm ‘Git Up’ on Golden Age 7″, and I wanted to keep this post specifically for ‘Revolution Rock / Rock Dub’. Those tracks were both ripped off of the Danny Ray and Mexicano albums, the images are of the sleeves of each…

The Apostles & The Mob – London Musicians Collective – January 1983 / The Cravats – Southern Studio original mixes – 1981 / Augustus Pablo – Atra Records – 1980 / Zos Kia – All The Madmen Records – 1984 / The Mob – Amsterdam – June 1979 / The Turdburglers – 1981 / 1982

The Apostles at L.M.C

The Mob at L.M.C

First there was a cassette.

The Apostles and The Mob recorded on a cassette recorder from the audience.

The cassette was available in 1983 via Larry Peterson’s Cause For Concern cassette tape label. This cassette tape label generally veered towards industrial experimental music, more so than punk or anarcho punk. Throbbing Gristle, Nocturnal Emissions and others.

This was an era when Andee Martian had an interest in the kind of music Larry Peterson was involved with releasing.

They both shared an appreciation of Whitehouse as well.

Andee Martian was helping to organise bi-monthly concerts at the L.M.C in Camden. Andee Martian recalls:

“The LMC, Camden, London NWI: September 1982 – February 1983

Organized by The Apostles and East London Workers Against Racism, this was more an alternative venue than a club. The organization here was minimal and suffered from a lack of PA equipment, an abundance of people who shouldn’t really have existed in a society that had long ago discovered penicillin and a financial situation strictly from Mickey Mouse. The bands who played here were, though, committed and varied: The Replaceable Headz, The Mob, Four Minute Warning, Zounds, Rack, Cold War, Twelve Cubic Feet, The Apostles, Flux Of Pink Indians, The Good Missionaries, Youth In Asia, Fallout, New 7th Music and a variety of poets and performance artists plus many other punk bands. Music events were the only things on offer here as bills had to be paid and the hall had to be hired. People have a tendency not to rush out to Camden from Gravesend and pay £1.50 to debate the politics of determinism versus free will… a pity really”.

Andee organised a concert with his band, The Apostles, and The Mob.

J.C who was the Treasurer of the Brougham Road Housing Co-Operative, where members of The Mob and Zounds were, or had been housed, also had a rickety P.A for hire.

On this night, J.C turned down Andee’s vocals during the song ‘Pigs For Slaughter’ which was towards the end of The Apostles set. Whether this was pressure from some audience members, or a decision by J.C himself I have no clue. A line was drawn in the sand and the P.A was on the ‘side’ of pacifism and not direct action. Whatever the reason, The Apostles cut short their set, and The Mob took over the stage.

This censorship issue was worthy enough in the minds of Andee and Dave Fanning (the bassist, sometime writer, artist and vocalist) that a small paragraph about it ended up on the cover of the first 7″ single from The Apostles released in 1983 credited to Dave.

It read as a rant against fake anarchists, pacifists and petty minded P.A operators… and so forth. Interestingly there was also a rant about Tony D (again credited to Dave), and the threat of violence towards him, for ‘not paying Little A printers for the costs of publishing KYPP 6 (or 5?)’. The bill to Little A printers was settled prior to The Apostles first 7″ single being available, so that paragraph on the sleeve, due to the delay was somewhat out of date! Thankfully Tony D was relieved to have kept all of his fingers, a main bullet point of the threat on the record sleeve!

Larry Peterson went to work on duplicating his original recording of the concert onto cassettes with a sleeve that folk could purchase by mail order or at concerts. Tellingly the cassette sleeve states: Pacifist PA Promotions!

The audio is extremely rough, but the listener can get a idea of the concert.

Secondly there was an album.

1984 and Larry Peterson released a Throbbing Gristle album on vinyl, in 1985 (or 1986?), he released his second vinyl for the Cause For Concern label.

This second vinyl released was a better sounding version of that old cassette originally released in 1983, due to the mastering needed for the metal stampers. I think there were 900 copies manufactured.

I knew J.C during the mid 1980’s while he was living at Brougham Road, and he had shrugged his shoulders, and sniggered slightly while discussing the L.M.C incident.

Andee I knew at this point as well, another Brougham Road resident at this point. I cannot remember discussing this issue with him, but I might have.

Larry Peterson I had never met, but when I did, and it was just the once, he mentioned that J.C had ‘loaned’ him a bus to go to Europe (Spain?) picking fruit one summer, and the bus ended up breaking down. Larry then left it on the roadside and eventually found an alternative route back when he needed to return to London!

I understood that J.C was not best pleased!

The audio for this YouTube post has been ripped off of my vinyl version, as the quality is better, but I have scanned in the original cassette sleeve, and the original cassette. Obviously I have also added the sleeve, ahem, design…

For what it’s worth!

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The Cravats fourth release for the Small Wonder record label, was the result of the band hooking up with Penny Rimbaud, the drummer with Crass and was recorded at Southern Studios in Wood Green, North London…

Penny managed to capture a darker sound for the band culminating in the tracks.’You’re Driving Me / I Am The Dreg’ which became The Cravats fourth attempt to tentatively stick its head above the parapet.

Although the eventual 7″ single, didn’t fare very well on release in March 1981, it was the start of a more cohesive sound for the band that seemed to be finding it’s feet in the studio.

These versions of ‘Dregs’ and ‘You’re Driving Me’ are on a cassette tape from Southern Studios labelled ‘Original Mixes’ and are different to the official 7″ single release.

The photographs of the actual recording session at Southern Studios that are featured in the middle of this YouTube post are from the collection of The Cravats.

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One brilliant compilation album focusing on the Santic record label. Horace Andy’s, ‘Children Of Israel’ and ‘Problems’ are worth the price of admission by themselves. One side concentrated ‘Pablo’, second side, various artists.

Snippet of an interview with Leonard ‘Santic’ Chin:

When I came in the business men like Bunny Lee and them were much older people than me, that’s what I thought, he was a bigger man in the business. I was just a youth getting in there. It’s not really about everybody liking you but, with most of them, I was alright… they’d let me feel like I belonged. Maybe, as a youth, I was likeable. At the time I was the youngest producer coming out of Jamaica after Gussie Clarke. The other day Bunny was saying to me “Santic you’re a legend, you know!” and I said “Come on Bunny! What are you talking about?” He said “Within that short space of time you were producing records in Jamaica you produced more hits than most of us! And you never had no big company like Dynamics behind you to help you either. One youth man making hit after hit! ‘Pablo In Dub’, ‘Children Of Israel’, ‘Lovers Mood’, ‘Problems’ ‘Late Hour’ with I Roy, ‘I’m A Free Man’ with Freddie McKay…”

Before even ‘Pablo In Dub’ I was recording a deejay named Jah Mojo. The first track I did with him was a tune named ‘Nitty Gritty’ and Bongo Herman was playing the drums. After that one I did a next tune with him named ‘Yankee Conkee’ and then I made this rhythm that I later used for ‘Pablo In Dub’, ‘Children Of Israel’ and ‘Down Santic Way’. Jah Mojo did a thing on it called ‘Jacamma Rock’ and it sold about a thousand and fifty copies. The rhythm was good… Aston ‘Family Man’ Barrett played the bass on it and his brother Carlton played the drums and there was a guy named ‘Snapping’ who played the piano…

Like I said when I went in the studio I was Sixteen. So I was just working with those guys, but I didn’t know their history… as the years went by I got to understand more and, being in the business, I learnt more and more. A lot of people my age in Jamaica wouldn’t know those things so that’s how I get to know. Anyway, he played the piano. The organ player was Ossie Hibbert. I did a mix for the Jah Mojo record and everybody loved the rhythm. One time Leroy Sibbles and some other people were standing up in Randy’s and Leroy said “This rhythm a bad! It’s like the bass carry the melody by itself” and then I decided to do a next mix of it.Eventually… things just happen sometimes when they’re supposed to happen.

I went up to Randy’s and mixed the tune… and for some reason Pablo just walked into the studio that evening and said “That rhythm there sound good!” So I said “Blow a thing on it now then, man!” I was into Pablo from ‘Java’ and was always asking him to do a tune for me and he used to smile and say I couldn’t afford to pay him and all those things there. He said “You’ll have to ask my manager Paul” and his manager said “Alright… do you have any weed?” My brethren, Carl Prehay, was there and he said “Yeah man… we have the boom!” And we bought a few Red Stripe beers, took the next two hours in the studio, set up the tape and he just blew through the tune a couple of times. The next one was a take and I said “This is ‘Pablo In Dub'”.

After ‘Pablo In Dub’ got on the Top Five it went to Number One for a week and then dropped back to Number Two and I asked Horace Andy if he could sing a tune on it for me. He loved the rhythm from time too… the Pablo version was so popular! Horace just came in the studio… it was a Friday morning. The day before I’d got Leroy Sibbles to put in the rhythm guitar because ‘Pablo In Dub’ never had a rhythm guitar in it. So it was Leroy Sibbles who actually chopped the rhythm guitar in it and then, the following day, I got Horace to sing on the rhythm. We played the rhythm track and Horace ad libbed and said “Errol!’ Rewind back the tape there” and he sang ‘Children of Israel…’ and went through it once, wrote some more lyrics, went through it again and half way through he said “Now run the tape Errol. And take it too!” We did ‘Children Of Israel’ and ‘Problems’ both at the same time. We didn’t spend two hours to do all that! The lyrics were written and voiced at that moment. There and then.

The ultimate Santic Records compilation released by Pressure Sounds is well worth getting hold of; HERE Please do so… All the songs are pure magic.

The original KYPP post to read and download the tracks HERE

Zos Kia ‘Rape / Thank You’.

Originally released as a 7″ single on the All The Madmen record label in 1984. Alistair, who was running All The Madmen Records throughout that year, was for several years, also involved with the Kill Your Pet Puppy fanzine. That fanzine’s last issue (number six) was published in the Autumn of 1983.

Alistair had also created his own fanzine during 1983, Encyclopedia Of Ecstasy, a fanzine that lasted for three issues.

All The Madmen Records released many important records throughout, inspiring to many, including myself.

This record, specifically the song ‘Rape’, was by far the most difficult to listen to, both musically and lyrically.

A very brave move from Alistair to have backed this project. And, it must be added, a very brave testament to Min, sharing this extremely harrowing experience to those that heard the song.

In-between The Mob, Flowers In The Dustbin, The Astronauts, Blyth Power and Thatcher On Acid, this record by Zos Kia was out there on their own.


Standing alone as an industrial record from an industrial band within the All The Madmen roster, rather than guitar based records from guitar based bands.

Zos Kia still holds that niche position in the All The Madmen catalogue.

The release of the Clair Obscur album ‘The Pilgrims Progress’ in 1986, came close to siding with Zos Kia. But never quite close enough.

Zos Kia / Thank You / Black Action / The Absolute

The re-release was organised by the new man in charge of All The Madmen Records from 1985, Rob Challice.

Due to the many letters received via Wot Distribution inquiring about purchasing the 7″ single which had been out of circulation since the first pressing of the record, Rob, in collaboration with John Gosling, decided on a re-release.

In 1986, the original two tracks from the 7″ single, were placed onto a 12″ extended play single with two new unreleased Zos Kia tracks that were recorded in 1985 added. This 12″ extended play single quickly sold out, and as far as I remember was never re-pressed. Making both formats of this record collectors items!

Min, a Kill Your Pet Puppy Collective member was the vocalist for Zos Kia on ‘Rape’, a true account of her feelings during an attack that she had suffered in Australia.

An extremely harrowing and brave performance from Min on this track, not easy listening whatsoever.

John Gosling is on the vocal duties for ‘Thank You’ and ‘Black Action’.

Alex Ferguson and Genesis P-Orridge, both Psychic TV members at that time were involved in the recording and the engineering of the two tracks, ‘Rape’ and ‘Thank You’, that were originally released on the 7″ single in 1984.

John Gosling also begun to work within the Temple Of Psychic Youth organisation, and from 1984 to 1986, performing live and in the studio with Psychic TV.

Zos Kia released a couple more 12″ singles on Psychic TV’s Temple Records, one was released in 1985 and one in 1987.

Thank you to Min, for supplying me with the photographs of Zos Kia performing at the Berlin Atonal Festival in 1984, that I have used for this YouTube post.

All the other bits are from my collection.

The cassette of Zos Kia at the Berlin Atonal festival is below.

The Mob Amsterdam 1979

A mixing desk cassette tape of a performance by The Mob and a good example of the set list at that time in 1979.

The mini European tour that this gig was included on, was with Here And Now and a bus load of other support acts, including Zounds.

I have a mixing desk cassette tape of The Mob in Arnhem (also in Holland) recorded on the 2nd June 1979 and that may be listened to HERE 

The songs performed at this gig in Amsterdam were written way before the ‘peace punk’ tag that The Mob carried around until the end of 1983, and that the band are better known for.

These songs will surprise many listeners. Some of these songs did end up being recorded cheaply and placed onto various compilation cassette tapes, generally released on Jonathan Barnett’s ‘Weird Tales’ cassette imprint. Jonathan Barnett was a one time roadie for Here And Now, Zounds and several other ‘free festival’ bands of that era. He was also in charge of Genius Records, a record label that were responsible (in part) for releasing the debut Astronauts album ‘Peter Pan Hits The Suburbs’.

Many of the songs performed are raw and basic, although a few of the songs in the early set, did make it through until the end of 1983. Namely ‘What’s Going On?’, ‘Youth’, and ‘The Mirror Breaks’. Of course those songs are still included in The Mob’s set in the 2000’s.

Most songs performed at this gig, and throughout this era, were jettisoned in favour of the newer songs that were being written, eventually ending up on the album, ‘Let The Tribe Increase’ and of course’ No Doves Fly Here’.

Grant Showbiz, from Street Level studios, can be heard on the mixing desk mic. Mark, an able guitarist, suffering from several guitar string breakages on the night, a very angry bassist, and one shit hot drummer in Graham Fallows, who also sings a few of the tracks.

There are two cover versions performed by The Mob during this gig in Amsterdam.

‘It’s A Rip Off’ by T Rex and ‘Louie Louie’ originally by the Kingsmen of course.

Enjoy the audio on this YouTube post, but, be wary, if you are hoping for the songs that later ended up on the ‘Let The Tribe Increase’ album, then prepare to be disappointed!

Images are from the collections of:

Mark Mob
Andy Tuck
Nick Godwin
Joanne Childs

Thanks to those folk.

There is a cassette tape fault on this audio around the seventeen minute mark for ten seconds or so.

Bayston Road Rehearsal

Wapping Autonomy Centre 1

Wapping Autonomy Centre 2

The only time that I read about The Turdburglars was a page or two in Kill Your Puppy fanzine issue 5 in 1982. I did not know the band, or what the band sounded like, or for that matter, the persons involved in the band.

The only piece of information I ever received first hand on The Turdburglars was from Andee Martian of The Apostles in the mid 1980’s, who spoke of an incident in which he described a face off between the band and himself. He claimed that The Turdburglars had written some unflattering songs about The Apostles, directed at himself specifically. The people that told Andee Martian this information were either incorrect themselves, or on a wind up. Andee went along to the band’s squat to confront. Andee supposedly had a rant and a push around and left the squat red faced when he realised that the claims that he was told were incorrect in the first place*.

* Actually Mick Lugworm has confirmed that The Turdburglars did have a song (not on this cassette tape) about Andee Martian; “Andee kept threatening to throw people down the stairs so I wanted to cover ‘Help me Mummy’ by Rubella Ballet as ‘Help Me Andee – Help Me Down The Stairs'”.

The Turdburglars did not release any records but these recordings do exist, for better or worse. Some might argue the latter! The material on this cassette contain a practise session at the squat in Bayston Road, Stoke Newington. After that there is a live performance at the Wapping Autonomy Centre from December 1981. All recorded in glorious lo-fi.

The Turdburgars were made up of Mick Lugworm, Mark Ripper, Richard Scarecrow, and a Boiled Egg, Duncan Jack. All of whom were orbiting around that whole North London squatting scene of that time in the early 1980’s, that bands like The Apostles, The Mob and Blood And Roses existed within. All of those worlds colliding in imperfect harmony with the Kill Your Pet Puppy Collective, passing Wapping Autonomy Centre on Westbourne Park Centro Ibrico on their outer-worldly orbital route. Drugs might have been taken, to keep the tribulations of the world outside the shabby squat doors and broken windows at bay.

Indebted to Richard Scarecrow for supplying the audio for this YouTube post.

Both of the written out sheets, which were the base for The Turdburglars piece in Kill Your Pet Puppy issue 5 are from Tony D’s collection. Followed by the actual pages of that Kill Your Pet Puppy fanzine.

Following those printed images there are dozens of period photographs in no particular order, of places and people that would have been circling The Turdburglers around that time in the early 1980’s.

These photographs are from the collections of:

Mick Lugworm
Jon From Bromley
Tony D
Tod Hanson
Richard Scarecrow
Martin Black

Thanks to those kindly folk.

The Mob – Doncaster – November – 1983 / Pete Fender And The Four Formulas – Xntrix Records – 1980 / Andy Stratton – All The Madmen Records – 1980 / The Review – All The Madmen Records – 1980 / Tea House Camp – Real Men Records – 1985 / Chron Gen – Gargoyle Records – 1981

The Mob’s last performance with the Mark, Curtis and Josef line up, recorded off of the sound desk at Doncaster Co-Op on the 19th November 1983.

The Mob were supported for the night by Chumbawumba, Passion Killers, a band that included a Chumbawumba member, and Benjamin Zephaniah.

This is a wonderful, powerful and intense performance by The Mob bowing out.

There are two oddities on this recording.

Firstly, kicking off the recording we have a Josef Porta penned song, ‘Hurling Time’ soon enough to be a stable of the Blyth Power set a couple of months later at the dawn of 1984.

Another song that I feel most interested in (around the forty ninth minute mark) is ‘Lights’, a song that has never been recorded and was performed rarely.

‘Lights’ is one of my favorite songs from The Mob.

Straight after ‘Lights’ is a blinding version of ‘Mirror Breaks’…

The songs that were performed after ‘Lights’ and ‘Mirror Breaks’ were, ‘Never Understood’ and ‘I Wish’.

And that, they say, was that.

The end of The Mob.

Curtis and Josef went onto form Blyth Power, with Neil ex of Faction, and Mark left music to one side, concentrating on other ventures, and leaving London.

The two photographs of The Mob performing live are from Min’s collection.

Original typed reviews relevant to The Mob are from Tony D’s collection.

Magazine articles and the black and white photograph at the start of this YouTube post are from ‘Penguin’s’ collection.

Read the KYPP post and listen to downloads HERE 

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Four Formulas (for the eradication of the microbes)

Four Pete Fenders performed on this extended play 7″ single, go on count them. They are all pictured on the record sleeve!

One Pete Fender on guitar and vocals, one more on the guitar, one on the bass and yet another on the drums creating one of the best 7” singles that I own, and furthermore a reference point to me personally of how wonderful an independently recorded, independently released, and independently distributed 7” single can be.

As with all the very best songs on any 7” singles that were released during that late 1970’s and early 1980’s era, the four songs presented on this Pete Fender record crash in, and crash out, at two and a half minutes or less.

Over three minutes you are the UK Subs, over four minutes you are a progressive rock band!

None of those examples regarding song length on 7” singles during that era are strictly true; in fact I made them up.

The point is that this record contains some of the best two and a half minutes of bitter sweet songs with 100% pop sensibilities, wrestling with the major label Buzzcocks in the ring, and almost succeeding in a knockdown, deserve to be less than two and a half minutes. Short and sweet, no flab. Any longer would have been an extravagance.

Pete is better known in, ahem, anarcho – punk circles. Oh I wish someone would invent another term for that scene. I can’t be bothered, so I will leave it to someone else. I will not hold my breath!

Pete was first known from being in the fresh faced punk baby booming band, The Fatal Microbes in 1978, a band that included Pete’s sister Gem Stone on the drums, Scotty Boy Barker on the bass, and Honey Bane as the vocalist. The Fatal Microbes released one record, a 7” single, the tracks of which also ended up on a 12” extended play showcase with the Poison Girls on the other side.

Both records were released at different times on the Small Wonder record label, and credit is due to both Pete Stennett and the people at XNTRIX for getting this first 12” extended play showcase out, catalogue number XN2001 / WEENY 3.

Vi Subversa, the vocalist and guitarist from the Poison Girls was Pete’s mother, (and also the mother of Gem Stone). Poison Girls, and family friends, Crass, strategically based in the near locality at that time, also released 45 rpm (extremely) extended play 12″ records on the Small Wonder record label.

Next up in Pete’s cannon was the forming of the embryonic Rubella Ballet.

Rubella Ballet were formed in 1979. Pete Fender on guitar, Gem Stone and ‘It’ (Quentin North) both on bass, and were then joined by the drummer Sid Ation (who would shortly be moonlighting by drumming with Flux Of Pink Indians for a while) and vocalists Annie Anxiety and Womble.

Incidentally, ‘It’ from Rubella Ballet helped compose ‘Lonely Homicide’, the second track on the A – side of the Four Formulas 7” single.

In 1980 Pete left Rubella Ballet to record these four (well there might have been more) wonderful songs that appeared on this extended play 7″ single. All songs were recorded in West London at the infamous Street Level recording studio.

Street Level studio was better known for recording (rather rough recordings it must be stated) absolutely wonderful quirky ramshackle bands, seemingly all of the bands from the nearby squatted Freestonia area, and bands from the small free festival scene, throwing in a few Alternative T.V sessions towards the end of the 1970’s.

The recording of these tracks prove to me that even the most humble, ganga heavy studio can get a hard pop sound, a hard pop sound that would have been rather better known for being recorded at the tiny Pathway Studio in Kentish Town.

Pete re-joins Rubella Ballet with Zillah Minx as the vocalist, alongside original members Gem Stone and Sid, and then leaves Rubella Ballet again sometime in 1982.

Not one to rest on his laurels Pete connects with Omega Tribe, undoubtedly one of the brightest lights of punk pop protest bands that released one of the best albums of 1983 ‘No Love Lost’ on Corpus Christi Records. Corpus Christi Records, owned and operated via Southern Studios with the executive ears of Penny Rimbaud of Crass.

Pete had, and still has, a heavyweight musical legacy earned during the late 1970’s and the early 1980’s, performing in a musical scene that he was, by a manner of speaking, born into, and for the involvement in those fine bands that are still remembered with fondness today.

Pete is still performing songs over thirty five years later, sensitive lyrics backed up with a single acoustic guitar and only a microphone to hide behind.

Going back to this Pete Fender extended play 7” single.

Play bastard loud, and jump around your bedroom.

You’ll feel much better.

Dedicated with love to Pete Fender.

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Another early gem from All The Madmen Records long distant past.

1980 was a productive year for records released on All The Madmen Records.

The ‘Englands Glory / The Greatest Show’ 7″ single by The Review, carrying the catalogue number REV001

Hear The Review’s 7″ single here:

The ‘Crying Again / Youth’ 7″ single by The Mob, carrying the catalogue number MAD001.

The ‘Witch Hunt / Shuffling Souls’ 7″ single, again by The Mob, carrying the catalogue number MAD002.

And this 7″ single by Andy Stratton, carrying the catalogue number MAD003.

This single by Andy Stratton ‘I Don’t Know / Evil Minds’ 7″ was recorded at Spaceward Studios in Cambridge (the same studio where The Mob recorded ‘Witch Hunt’ and later on ‘Let The Tribe Increase’) and it was released in 1980.

Andy Stratton was a sixteen year old from Somerset who hung out with The Mob. The drummer on this single was Graham Fallows, who was still a member of The Mob at the time these two songs were recorded.

As far as I know, Andy never played out under his own name as a solo artist, but The Mob and Andy’s band, Null And Void toured England in a converted bus until it broke down in 1981 around Brougham Road, Hackney in London.

Andy and members of The Mob stayed on in London, embracing the squat scene as best they could considering the hardships of that lifestyle. Graham from The Mob did not stay on in London, so a search was on for a replacement drummer for The Mob.

Adie from Null And Void temporarily stepped in, as did Tim from Zounds, but finally Josef, also from Zounds, took a more permanent role in the band.

The Mob, Null And Void and Zounds all performed together many times in the UK and in Europe.

This single, released on All The Madmen records, is an excellent punk power pop affair, a similar sound and feel to the Pete Fender and The Four Formulas 7″ single called ‘Promises’ which was released on the Poison Girl’s record label Xntrix around the same time.

Interestingly, Pete Fender went on to record Andy Stratton’s band Null And Void at Xntrix Studio later on in 1982.

Hear the Null And Void demo HERE

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In 1980 All The Madmen Records released the debut 7″ single by The Mob, ‘Crying Again / Youth’ on catalogue number MAD001. Also in 1980 All The Madmen Records released another 7″ single, by a Clevedon mod band, The Review, ‘England’s Glory / Greatest Show’ on catalogue number REV001.

The Review were a band that had started up, like The Mob, around 1977.

A year later in 1978, the beginnings of a revived mod scene begun to bubble under the surface, exploding into mainstream conciseness in 1979 with bands like The Chords, Purple Hearts and Secret Affair getting in the UK singles chart.

The Jam had already known UK chart success from 1977 of course.

The Review embraced the mod revival scene and recorded this one 7″ single for All The Madmen Records, cheaply recorded like many other ‘indie’ mod revival bands of the year, The Circles etc.

That said the band were still very punchy and these two tracks are very good indeed.

On the sleeve it name-checks The Mob, Wilf (the resident artist who supplied sleeve artwork for this record by The Review, and for all of the records released by The Mob), Christine and Debs (Goodge) from Bikini Mutants (Debs was to become a founding member of My Bloody Valentine in the mid 1980’s).

The Review performed with The Mob on occasion, and if you look carefully at two of the live photographs, you will see an original backdrop for The Mob behind the drummer of The Review.

A reddish skeleton backdrop.

The live photographs kindly supplied by Mike Eagle, the vocalist and guitarist of The Review.

Thanks to him for those.

Mike Eagle went onto form The Driscolls in the mid 1980’s, an guitar indie band that had a number of records released.

Martin Hutt, the drummer, joined up with Tea House Camp, also in the mid 1980’s, fronted by two Bradford born brothers, and veering to a more goth sound, releasing one record, that may be listened to below.

Phil (also known as Taf), the bassist, joined up with Disorder, hardcore punk squatters from Bristol, releasing hardcore punk records, and he remains as the only permanent member of that band since he joined.

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Tea House Camp, a band that should have become much bigger than they actually got, had an All The Madmen records link.

Martin Hutt the drummer of Tea House Camp was formally the drummer for The Review from Clevedon near Bristol, a band along with The Mob shared the pleasure of having the first two 7″ singles released on the All The Madmen record label in the dawn of 1980. The Mob released ‘Crying Again’ as catalogue number MOB001 and The Review released ‘Englands Glory’ as catalogue number REV001. The Mob and The Review performed live together a few times in the early stages of both those bands careers.

That small fact aside, Tea House Camp for a while were destined for big things. Martin joined up with Brendan and Des, two brothers from Bradford who had got fed up with times in smalltown England. They both found themselves down south in London, for a while gaining employment at Rough Trade distribution which at that time was based in Collier Street in Kings Cross.

The band went for a slightly gothic Associates sound, more Martian Dance than Sex Gang Children, slightly less weird than the Virgin Prunes.

In 1984 Tea House Camp got to record a John Peel session and gained some favourable live reviews in several music papers along with a feature written by Mick Mercer in the monthly Zig Zag magazine.

Zig Zag magazine, at least from 1982 until its demise in 1986, had a strong Kill Your Pet Puppy association. Tony D and Al Puppy would regularly write articles for the magazine, along with KYPP cohort, fanzine editor and writer, Tom Vague. A brilliant magazine in it’s day with many non mainstream bands being featured and with the added bonus of the writings of Kris Needs and Mick Mercer.

I got to know Tea House Camp vaguely, via the band Kindergarten who at that time were based in Lansdowne Road in Tottenham. One of Tea House Camp lived in the same ramshackle house and the other members used to visit quite often.

Both Tea House Camp and Kindergarten would perform gigs together which ended up pretty jolly affairs in general. One gig with Lack Of Knowledge was a little moody I recall.

Brendan and Des had left Bradford in the early 1980’s but the brothers still had several friends in among that vibrant scene. Stories about the early performances of Southern Death Cult, New Model Army and Danse Society would be interesting talking points, well at least to me they were interesting…

Through Tea House Camp and Kindergarten I got to meet Nick the Frog, and Justin ‘Slade The Leveller’ along with Joolz. I did not know them that well, but I enjoyed their company at private parties in Stamford Hill where they were based at the time, and met that crowd at Tea House Camp and Kindergarten gigs they all went to.

Tea House Camp released one 7″ single, ‘To Kill Stab In Back’ and ‘Poor Tom’, the single that is uploaded onto this YouTube post.

The 7″ single is decent fare, and pretty rare nowadays.

The photographs I took of Tea House Camp were from a gig with The Folk Devils and Ausgang at the Richmond. Sorry about the quality of them. I did not own cameras back that often in the early and mid 1980’s, and the few that I did use were the cheapest possible!

I remember buying the debut 7″ single by Chron Gen, released on Gargoyle Records in 1981, from Startime Music situated along Post Office Walk in Harlow, and immediately loving it.

I remember that this record spun many hundreds of times on my cheap mono record player that I had acquired, a year or so prior, from a Summer school fete.

The band members were based around Hitchin and Stevenage.

Stevenage Bowes Lyon House was on the live punk circuit and many bands performed there at weekly punk nights.

Chron Gen were a ‘local’ band to where I was living at the time, although factoring in mileage, that is, and was, a rather tenuous claim!
Crass in Epping, Newtown Neurotics in Harlow, and Lack Of Knowledge in Enfield were probably nearer, well definitely nearer to where I lived at the time, but I still thought of Chron Gen as a ‘local’ band.

The band had a mid paced tempo to their brand of ’77 music and clear lyrics, to counter the speed of Discharge (a band not a condition) from around the same time.

Discharge were immense but every now and again you need a break.

The second single was released, again in 1981, on the very, very, excellent Step Forward record label; ‘Reality’ and ‘Subway Sadist’, two tracks of immense power, the A-side dealing in one of Chron Gen’s loves, acid, dope, and magic mushrooms.
This second 7″ single trumped the Gargoyle Records release, but not by much. Both 7″ singles rotating and rotating on that same little mono record player in my bedroom…

As an aside, I liked the fact that the drummer of Chron Gen, esp on the rear picture sleeve of ‘Realty’, looked and dressed very similar to the way I was looking and dressing as a thirteen, going on fourteen year old! I wore my original Chron Gen T- shirts with some pride. I really wish I did not put all my old original punk T-shirts on a fire in the early, or mid 1990’s!

Bushell rated Chron Gen, so what could go wrong?

For a while, when Bushell liked a band, the band seemed to end up on Larry Prior’s Secret Records, a pretty large record company masquerading as a small record label.

Chron Gen were no exception.

From that point, my beloved Chron Gen released some patchy records.

When you see a B-side of a 7″ single being ‘live’ tracks from some gig or other, you know the studio tracks have dried up.

This might be telling as Jon Thurlow (who ending up later on in the 1980’s selling scented candles, silver jewelry and trinkets at the door of the Stevenage Bowes Lyon House on gig nights) had actually left Chron Gen shortly after the Apocalypse Now tour.

Maybe that detail had a bearing on the ‘live’ track scenario, or maybe it didn’t.

Either way, when the long anticipated (by me at least) debut album was released on Secret Records in 1982, complete with (you guessed it) a live 7″ single slipped into the package, I took a deep breath, after spotting some more ‘live’ tracks credits on the album cover, and gave the record a spin on 33rpm.

‘Hounds Of The Night’ a favourite of mine kicked the album off in a decent enough way, already eight out of ten. From the ending of that track (in my opinion, which means sod all…but) the quality of the tracks on this album went south.

I felt strangely depressed.

The Newtown Neurotics (another ‘local’ band) released ‘Beggars Can Be Choosers’ in 1983 and that settled the battle of the ‘local’ bands debut albums (a riddle only occurring in my head) and the Newtown Neurotics won hands down.

Chron Gen did come back stronger with a final 7″ single release on Secret Records in 1983, ‘Outlaw’.

This single was a final bow out from Secret Records and for Chron Gen themselves.

A new look Chron Gen, with new guitarist and bassist, released another album in the mid 1980’s, nodding towards a more rockier sound.

Sadly that album did not pick up any further interest from me.

The promotional poster of ‘Puppets Of War’ is from my collection.


I am not known for ‘promoting’ myself in any way, but I took the liberty of adding a photograph of myself towards the very end of this YouTube post, as I looked (when not at school) around the time when Chron Gen were among my favourite bands. There are very, very few photographs of me from around twelve years old upwards, as I felt uncomfortable with having photographs taken, as I was painfully shy and withdrawn going through my teens… It’s a shame I have a scarf on (THFC by the way), as I might have been wearing an original Chron Gen T-shirt!

Also I cannot find my original Gargoyle blue label version of ‘Puppets Of War’, which I am actually pretty annoyed about, as I wanted to scan that record.

Luckily I also have in my collection, the Gargoyle white label version of the record.

Read the KYPP post and listen to downloads HERE

The Cravats – Overground Records – 2016 – Penny Rimbaud Memories – 2016

Anyone who has had even a vague love of punk music over the last thirty five  years will know The Cravats or, at least, be aware of their existence.

Championed by John Peel with four sessions, releases on Small Wonder and Crass; the sax-riddled, bass-laden weirdness, the humour, the love of Dada and the infamous Redditch ‘Dustbin of Sound’.

Never mainstream, never hugely popular but always utterly unique they ploughed their own musical furrow in the peripheral vision of the music biz since forming in 1977, which was fine by them.

Those that loved them loved them to death, those that didn’t, didn’t.

They stopped in the mid-eighties for a cup of tea and it wasn’t until the 2006 release of ‘The Land of The Giants’ double CD compilation on Overground Records that many folk realised what they’d missed.

Co-founder The Shend and original sax-riddler Svor Naan, along with fellow Redditcharian Rampton Garstang on drums, resurrected a live version of the band in 2009 at the bequest of admirers old and new.

Steve Albini’s curated ATP, the final ‘Feeding of The 5000’ Steve Ignorant Crass show, a host of European festivals including four years at Rebellion Festival, a Marc Riley BBC6 session and a bunch of selective UK gigs followed to much critical acclaim.

But it is only since the addition, of Viscount Biscuits on guitar and Joe 91 on bass that they have finally decided the ingredients are right for new material and the Jingo Bells / Batter House single is the first offering of this burst of productivity.

With a second 7″ already recorded and an LP due for release by the end of 2016, plus a host of upcoming gigs The Cravats are well and truly back.

Still drenched in sax, obliquely angry, raucous and sounding like no other band in existence they have remained faithful to the sound that made them unique. Eccentrically frantic on stage, odd but on the ball on record and definitely not normal, the world needs bands like The Cravats.

For now though, it’ll have to settle for just the one.

Get the numbered limited edition 7″ single HERE

The Cravats – Small Wonder Records – Original Southern Studio mixes – 1981

The Cravats fourth release for the Small Wonder record label, was the result of the band hooking up with Penny Rimbaud, the drummer with Crass and was recorded at Southern Studios in Wood Green, North London…

Penny managed to capture a darker sound for the band culminating in the tracks.’You’re Driving Me / I Am The Dreg’ which became The Cravats fourth attempt to tentatively stick its head above the parapet.

Although the eventual 7″ single, didn’t fare very well on release in March 1981, it was the start of a more cohesive sound for the band that seemed to be finding it’s feet in the studio.

These versions of ‘Dregs’ and ‘You’re Driving Me’ are on a cassette tape from Southern Studios labelled ‘Original Mixes’ and are different to the official 7″ single release.

The photographs of the actual recording session at Southern Studios that are featured in the middle of this YouTube post are from the collection of The Cravats.

Penguin chats with Penny

I love The Cravats; and I thought I would spend a few minutes talking about the band with Penny Rimbaud of Crass.

Hi Penny, I wonder, can you remember how you met the Cravats?

I met them at Southern Studios when Pete Stennet, the proprietor of the Small Wonder record shop asked me to produce a single for The Cravats, to be released on his Small Wonder record label.  Pete had already heard records that I had produced and that John Loder had engineered. I produced ‘Hex’ by Poison Girls, and ‘Feeding’ by Crass, at Southern Studios both with John Loder engineering, both released on Small Wonder Records in 1979.

Can you remember whether The Cravats performed at the Small Wonder Records showcase at the Camden Music Machine in 1979?

No, I do not think so. Crass performed with The Wall, Patrik Fitzgerald headlined. I think The Cure performed.  Was it 1979 or 1978?

I think it was around the beginning of 1979. Tony D went, he might know. 

Sounds about right Pengy.

What was your interest in helping The Cravats to go to Southern Studios in 1981and produce their single on Small Wonder, had you heard the band’s music at all?

Well Pete asked, and I was always willing to help out if asked. I had never heard The Cravats prior to the studio sessions, and I liked them when I heard them. The bounciness, and a kind of cabaret sound. More of a Beefheart sound than Sex Pistols. The saxophone was always interesting, actually a sax was interesting in any band of that era! The name The Cravats interested me as well.  I used to wear cravats when I had modernist pretensions in the early 1960’s. At Dagenham college where I was going to during those years, there was a building department for builders, painters and decorators, plumbing and all those trades. Most of those apprentices were very sharply dressed, and when not in overalls were sporting all kinds of flash modernist clobber. Cravats included. Most listened to Jamaican bluebeat records.

The band recorded a 7” single for Crass Records a year later in 1982. ‘Rub Me Out’. I assume that you were eager to have the band onto the label. Was this generally seconded by the other members of Crass? In other words, did other members of Crass like the sound that The Cravats made and were other members of Crass involved in the decision making?

Well, to be honest Pengy, it was myself who more or less chose the bands and artists that were to record, and have records released on the Crass record label. Steve and Andy suggested some bands to record. I think Andy put up the idea of Lack Of Knowledge. Steve put up Conflict I think.

The other day Penny, some numbnut placed a comment up on social media about the Crass record label. It was a post about new punk music I think. Someone mentioned something, and I paraphrase; “All that stuff on Crass Records, all bands sounding the same”. This always annoys me, probably because I know the back catalogue rather more than that social media post person. Annie Anxiety, The Cravats, Zounds, D&V, Lack Of Knowledge, KUKL, Hit Parade, Rudimentary Peni, The Snipers etc.

Yes, sadly we get that a fair bit. Funny you mention The Snipers, and other members of Crass in your original question. No one from Crass liked that single. Everyone thought it was truly awful. I loved it! D.I.R.T and Alternative could possibly be compared to Crass. I doubt that those bands would like to be compared to Crass to be honest, as they were doing their own thing. It’s a little lazy to state that ‘Crass type bands’ that released records on the Crass record label are similar.

Indeed Penny. Jane Gregory sounded more like Conflict than Flux in my humble opinion.

Steady on Pengy. The other way around!

Can you remember the Southern Studios sessions for the Small Wonder and Crass recordings? Have you got any Cravats anecdotes?

Oh. No I don’t think that anything odd happened. The band seemed capable, they seemed to know what they were doing and caused no bother.

No stories similar to The Mob recording ‘No Doves Fly Here’ at Southern Studios where a gong was recorded dozens of times before you were happy with the sound?

Ha! Yes, I remember that. We hired a huge gong. And yes that gong was banged and recorded a lot of times. Another thing that I remember about that session was Mark from the band sounding quite asthmatic on the day he needed to lay down the vocal track. It was bad enough for him to sing one lyric at a time on the recording. The backing track reel was stopped at the exact moment for the next lyric to be recorded.

So none of that for sessions that The Cravats were involved with?

No, nothing like that.

Did The Cravats perform alongside Crass at all? The band did not perform at the Zig Zag all dayer for sure.

No, The Cravats were never on the same bill as Crass.


How did you get involved as the bus driver on The Cravats video? Were you contacted via Shend or via Overground Records who released the record?

Shend contacted me. There was going to be a video and they needed a conductor. I was sold straight away and asked him to get me a hat. If you look carefully at the hat, there is a sign that looks like ‘Crass Tours’, as the video is filmed on a tourist bus driving around central London. The sign actually reads ‘Crass Touts’.

Are there any anecdotes to share about the filming on the bus? Did you enjoy the experience and seeing Shend again?

Well, for starters it was a lovely day for filming, bright and sunny in the winter. The bus just spun around London while we fucked around. The drums did not slip sideways every time the bus took a sharp turn thankfully. We filmed around Westminster, Parliament Square so personally I was surprised that we were not ushered away by heavily armed police persons, while driving around there, around and around. Actually we did drive near to 10 Downing Street, and the police were keeping an eye out, looking over at the bus.

Shend and I do communicate with, and is one of the few people from the bands the released records on Small Wonder or Crass that I have always been able to contact and vis versa. I last saw Shend, prior to the video shoot, at Steve Ignorants gig at Shepherds Bush a few years ago when The Cravats supported. Where you there?

Yes I was there. I don’t think I was ‘all there’ to be honest. The Mob and loads of other bands had put on a gig in Brixton the night before, and I was pretty exhausted after all that. Recording all the bands, taking photographs, staying up late. Going to Shepherds Bush after a self-organised and self-promoted gig with something like seven bands in two rooms in the same venue, seemed like a bit of a downer. People seemed to enjoy it, I thought it was fine. I didn’t buy a T-shirt. Or a coffee mug. Or anything else being punted out on the stalls. Steve was clearly emotional and gave 1000% so I think it was my mind-set rather than the performance, or any of the band members. I was on the huge video screen for a few seconds at the back of the stage, so who knows I might be on a YouTube video somewhere!

Did you know that I remixed the tracks on the ‘Cravats In Toytown’ album for Overground Records?

Yes, I knew of the release, but I was not aware you were involved, or if I was, I have forgotten that you were.

Yes, a few years ago now. Tony Barber and Harvey were involved as well. One side of a double C.D set.

Harvey? I haven’t seen him since seeing both of you at Southern Studios remixing Crass master reels. It was the same night as Tottenham beating Liverpool  4 -2 in the Carling Cup. I went to see the second half after leaving you both to it. Hope he is well.

Yes, I hope so too!

Was it fun remixing that old album? I have the original vinyl. I bought it from the Small Wonder shop in Walthamstow in the early 1980’s. It’s a great record.

Yes it was great listening to the master reels and doing some work on them. And yes it is a great record. We were very happy to be a part of this project. Hopefully the version on sale now from Overground Records will be appreciated by people as much as you appreciate your copy.

Thanks for this Penny. I’ll get all this written up.

Thanks Pengy darling.

The Cravats – ‘The Cravats In Toytown’ – Overground Records – 2012

The complete Small Wonder recordings: The Cravats In Toytown album and five singles, newly remastered, plus a bonus disc of In Toytown remixed from the original multi-track tapes by Penny Rimbaud.

John Peel: “I hate Toyah records and they all go whizzing into the charts, and I love The Cravats and play all their records and nobody buys them. Whenever I start to feel important I think, ‘Well, I never did much for The Cravats and I didn’t stop Toyah’…” – Smash Hits, 1982

The Cravats’ one, great musical handicap was that they were indescribable. Incisive, innovative musicianship was everywhere, yet the songs themselves defied comparison to anyone else’s. The lyrics, meanwhile, were uncommon, vivid, and forcefully-delivered, so reviewers (both friendly and hostile) focused on those. But the part that burrowed straight for the wee chunk of your brain marked “fight or flight” on the meat-cutters’ chart was the unsettling throb and lurch of the massively-amplified sax, guitars, bass, drums, and whatever other alien sound-forms and distortions The Cravats felt like heaving into the mix.

Their devoted record-company, Small Wonder, had no idea how to present them, either, but they kept on releasing Cravats records long after they’d bid adieu to the rest of their visionary catalog (among them The Cure, Patrik Fitzgerald, Crass, Poison Girls, Menace, Bauhaus, and Fatal Microbes). Peel played and played them, recording four Cravats Peel sessions 1979-82.

The Cravats formed after a Stranglers show in Birmingham in 1977: they borrowed £400 from Shend’s mum and self-released their debut 7” Gordon in July 1978. Small Wonder liked the single so much that they picked up 500 copies and booked the band into the studio with producer Bob Sargeant; the result was the Burning Bridges single, soon followed by Precinct. Next, the band relocated to Torquay for a full week in 1980 to record their first album – on an 8-track in a hotel basement: The Cravats In Toytown made it into the Top 20 in the independent charts. Two more Small Wonder 45s followed, You’re Driving Me and Off The Beach, sandwiched around their first project with Penny Rimbaud (who succeeded in making them even darker with ‘Rub Me Out’).

Despite their collectability, the Small Wonder records remained un-reissued until Penny Rimbaud obtained the recently discovered multi-track Toytown masters and re-interpreted and remixed them in his own unique, eccentric style, as Alice’s Adventures In Toytown.

The singles and the ‘original’ LP mix are fully remastered here as well.

Buy the C.D HERE

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Tony D talks with Thurston Moore on B.B.C’s Artsnight programme – March 2016

M: Hey Tony, hello there. So is this the first issue of RT you did in 76?

D: Yeah, it’s the first one. Nov 76, it came out.

M: In Nov 76. So what… what made you do this? I mean, you obviously… How old were you in 1976, if you don’t me asking?

D: I was about 17 then, 17 or 18

M: What year were you born?

D: 1958

M: So was I. What month?

D: April

M: July – so you’re the old man here…

D: So what used to happen – I was living in Glasgow, reading the music press and avidly following music and they started writing about this punk rock experience. Punk rock’s happening in London. And I thought this sounds like my kind of thing and I’d get a bus from Glasgow – there’s a bus at 11 o clock on Friday night. I’d get back Monday morning to Glasgow at 8 o clock in the morning. I’d often be on the bus, leave work, leave the work I was doing, go to London, come back on the bus, go straight into work in the morning, having seen punk rock bands and what was happening on King’s Road, not what was happening compared to later on, but there was enough people hanging around in shabby clothes, with funny haircuts. I thought this was it.

M: And were you by yourself? Did you have a mate that you…?

D: A mate back in London, but he never got into this idea of going down and back. So I’d go down by myself, stay at people’s houses …

M: Do you remember the first bands that you had seen in 76?

D: I’m trying to remember if the Damned is the first time I actually saw a band in 76 – I’d go down there, but there weren’t any playing. I’d just go down there just to see what was going on.

M: Yeah.

D: Because London is a bigger place than you realise. Before you go to London, it’s this giant city.

M: Were you aware of Rough Trade which opened in 1976.

D: Yeah, they used to have stalls at gigs again – I found out at the Damned gig, they had a stall there. Again you’d go there; they didn’t have that much stuff. Rock and Roll off Carnaby Street was more a place to go – they had more Stooges, more punk garage selection. I remember going there and Metallic KO and Nuggets, and things like that…

M: To start a fanzine – was there any other fanzine that you saw at the time? That would have existed?

D: I suppose there was Sniffing Glue

M: That was the one?

D: And I found that on Kings Road, which again I’d read about that in the papers, the music papers – I knew it existed. I got hold of it and thought this is it – it doesn’t look very good. It’s just this columns, not much graphic style going on, and then when I met at the Damned gig, I met Mark, said to him ‘ Can I write about, can I write for Sniffin Glue’ cause I loved writing, as long as, the only thing I was good at at school was writing. I said to him ‘Can I write about this – I’m down from Glasgow – Down fro’ Glasgae – Cannae wrigh bout the Damned’ and he said ‘No, do one yourself, go back to Glasgow, and do one yourself’.

M: So you did!

D: And so I spoke to the band – cause the Damned at that stage went into the bar and said ‘I’m down from Glasgae tae see ye’ and went back and put it together really quickly, put it together with my mate, Skid Kid – I mean seeing the actual Damned, it blew my mind. Everything I thought was happening with Punk Rock… It was actually better. The reality of seeing the Damned, it was better than I could possibly imagine. So fast, I never believed the songs could actually be so fast – hypnotic almost. And so this was my kind of… I gotta do something, that was my reaction to this. All I can do is write, I can’t sing, I can’t play guitar. All I can do is write. And so I put this together.

M: Can Rich Stars Rock? (TM reads article)… That’s Rock and Roll

D: It’s poetry – pure poetry.

M: Were you, eh, so how much did you charge for this when you did this? So this is Nov 1976…

D: There’s no actual price for this. I didn’t know what to charge. Let me tell you a little bit of the backstory – when I did go back and created ten pages, there’s ten pages here. At the work, I managed to photocopy ten copies of each page, so I’d ten issues. I’d ten copies of it stapled together. What was I going to do with it? I think, almost in a sense that was it. I’d done ten issues, I was fine, I was replete, and my creative impulses were done. I’d sent a copy to Rough Trade and a copy to Compendium Record, bookshop in the days when people used to write. Rough Trade wrote back to me and said ‘Great, can we order 200 copies’ and the next day Compendium wrote to say ‘Great, can we have 200 copies’ and I would have had to photocopy 400 copies, that’s 4000 on this work photocopier, and I thought I can’t do that.

M: Stapling alone is a kind of…

D: But I managed to… it’s leapt to another level. So I had an order 400 copies, and again I hadn’t put a price on it at that point. They said How much are you charging for it – and so I think I only charged 20p or 25p, and I said it to the shops they’d buy it for 15p and then sell it for 20p, 25p, and then I had to go to another printer, and the level just rose suddenly, who said he could print it and he did. And I had to sit and staple it all, and post these bundles down to London.

M: One sided, what size?

D: A4

M: A4? Sorry, I’m an American, we don’t all these sizes – it’s 11 x 14. Those are our two standard sizes, so the A7, A4 thing is like… it’s like Fahrenheit and Celsius. Yeah, I’ll give you 50p for this one!

D: I think they go for hundreds of pounds now…

M: Well, all of these fanzines we have here – do you have recognise some of these? Were you a fanzine collector at all?

D: I do, yeah. People used to swop – you’d do a fanzine, you’d swop fanzines. Everyone would be at a gig, by the… a bit later on, you’d have seven or eight people at gigs. And everyone used to swop… You’d go back with more than you’d turn up with…

M: I recall… ‘Cause fanzines would always have addresses of other fanzines in their fanzines, so you’d…

D: Once you got one, you could find more….

M: You’d throw a note inside the letter and hopefully a fanzine would come. Usually it would…

D: I… what I used to get is requests to buy records. People would write to me, saying can you buy me this?


M: How many copies of RT did you make?

D: I made 17 in the end, and then I passed it on to lady called Vermillion. She did the 18th. I moved on. I went abroad, and she was… the idea was that she was going to carry on through. There were 17 at that point. And it grew quite dramatically, graphic wise and design wise, probably writing wise, the bit you read out. The bit with less swearing in it.

M: A bit less swearing.

D: Sentences probably got longer as well. So, we moved from A4 single sided to A3 – we started having A3, started having colour on the cover. And you see more… more inventive lay-out style. Of course there are more bands to write about, so a new world was coming up. New bands discovering things. It got quite big towards the end; it was quite a big seller. Quite good alternative to the music press. As I was saying about it to somebody… when the music press was saying that punk rock’s dead, the music press was saying that punk rock was over, they certainly went on a whole music press agenda that punk rock… So fanzines became really important, because they’re the only ones writing about,  because we never questioned whether punk rock was dead or not, we just knew it was alive, just write about the bands as we were doing in 77, 76. And so it then became important… A lot of it was much localised as well in different cities, writing about their local bands.

M: Did you ever think that you’d want to be in a  band? Did you ever have any aspiration to have a punk band? As much as you love punk…?

D: If I would have had a band, a band round about the David Bowie era, when I first got into music, roundabout 72, 73, when I was listening to the Stooges, the Velvets, started… then you’re hearing that stuff. You don’t have to be an accomplished guitarist to play… I just couldn’t fathom it. I think I tried. I got an acoustic guitar… And I can’t sing, even to punk rock standards – I haven’t got the strength of lungs for it. I admire, I really admire people…


D: I was very good at writing in school, my only skill was writing. So it was natural for me to think this was the way I was going to go. If I had formed a band, it would have been before punk rock, and unfortunately it didn’t happen. Also I didn’t know enough people who liked that type of music…

M: Living in Glasgow in 1976, discovering punk rock in that community there, did you have other friends who also were where you were or did you feel pretty much that you were on the margins?

D: The ones who liked Mott the Hoople, liked Roxy Music, liked short songs, were ready, were primed for this style of music, this look. Those of my friends who liked Yes, Deep Purple, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin was huge in Glasgow – those people just didn’t get it all, and thought it was pop, punk… I remember playing Anarchy in the UK to some people and they said it’s just glam rock. And I thought, that’s probably why I like it.

M: I think in 76, a lot of people probably felt, hearing the Ramones or the Sex Pistols, that it was an extension of glam, but with leather jackets, jeans, and so it still had this kind of high concept in a way, but it was more into this street rock thing, which in a way, maybe you saw it a bit with Slade, or even Mud or these kind of bands. There was something a bit ‘street’ about it. Maybe…

D: In England we had the Bay City Rollers, who had the short trousers and scarves. And that look was taken off football hooligans. The short trousers maybe flared up to the calf.

M: They weren’t singing about anarchy or sniffing glue or…

D: And the spiky hair they had…

M: Or smashing things up. The…

D: Saturday night’s quite raucous.

M: Definitely. It’s alright for fighting. But, those sentiments needed to get real. And there was a certain sort of, EM, reality in what was being sung in the punk bands in 76 that sort of attracted us.

D: What I found was that I was going down to London and coming back was that London seemed more like my home and going back on the Monday, I was entering an alien land. I was entering more and more sort of seeing sort of friends. It was more my neighbourhood as it were, they were my people. Everything  back in Glasgow was just more and more alien and irrelevant. You know, I spent most of my time there, but I felt I was alive at that point.

M: So you relocated to London at some point?

D: At some point. I was still working at my job; where I did issues number 1 to 4. And by number 4 I actually put Glasgow’s Only Fanzine and straight in Tony Moves to London full sordid details. So you can see its right at the cross over point.

M: Did you have any foresight at the time about what was going to happen after 76, cause 77 everything explodes. Records, fanzines, everything sort of comes out. And more and more people are just like joining the league of punk. Did you feel that happening or did you just think it was going to be like this weird little thing? Cause in 76 it was a little bit transitional in a way…

D: I thought it was going to be a weird little thing, a little sub cult. I never thought of this explosion. Of course, Bill Grundy… the interview changed everything overnight.

M: And did you watch that?

D: It wasn’t on in Scotland. But every local, every paper, all the red tops, called the tabloids had it front page. It used to have… A tiny small TV show with a small interview on it, completely out of proportion. Because punk had all this filth and fury – the Pistols that was set up, was mostly cancelled, all the dates were cancelled. And that’s how it changed from being a little subculture – it could have just been loads of bands playing around. Small little groups of punks in different cities suddenly became them. Certainly punk exploded, a lot of people became punks after that. But really the first reason for being a punk – they became punks more for Sid Vicious and the Dead Boys. So it’s a shock thing now, rather than a lifestyle, an alternative lifestyle. I saw it as a lifestyle – a breakout of a boring reality. And people saw it as a shock, which then they kind of thought Saturday night’s all right for punking. Cause you have then to go back – they’re quite happy to work, and then the release.

M: Were bands coming up to Glasgow – did the Pistols come up there?

D: Well, the Pistols were cancelled – In RT 2; I’ve got the ticket stub in.

M: Oh, you’ve got the ticket stub in RT 2?

D: It was cancelled, because that was almost three days after Bill Grundy. The tour had started, when the Grundy issue had happened.

M: Oh, so that must have been really upsetting for you.

D: Yeah, it was… And I told so many people this is it – this is it. This is what I’m talking about. This is what I do on the weekends. It’s coming to Glasgow. No, it’s not coming to Glasgow. Then the Damned came supporting T Rex shortly after that.

M: Cause Marc Bolan was really pro-punk rock.

D: Because he had his TV show and he got bands on TV. So he got the Damned on TV. It was the first band to play a big venue – I think any band really. I think the Vibrators came up; Iggy Pop I think stopped at Newcastle wouldn’t come upwards! So as far as I know, the Damned supporting T Rex was the first London punk band to play Glasgow. We had the Runaways. The Runaways played that summer.

M: Did you go to see that?

D: Of course! It was huge!

M: Was that with Cherie Curry or was that?

D: Cherie was still singing then. The first album had just come out. That was actually – it sounds ridiculous – but that was the first time we saw people were interested in punk. We had people like Alex Ferguson, Sandy Robertson, SR went on to write for Sounds, and Alex Ferguson went on to write for ATV and Psychic TV. I met these people at gigs like that. And they had friends who became Orange Juice, Postcard Records. The Jesus and Mary Chain, they were at that gig. So all these kind of people you never really saw. This was the first time there. And unfortunately there was nothing again to really bring that side…

M: Was there a record store in Glasgow that people could socialise in?

D: Not really. The shops were very good – there were these independent shops that sold all this stuff. And had Anarchy in the window – the Damned, New Rose – promoting this stuff.

M: Which place was?

D: I can’t remember the names of the record shops. There were three really good independent shops. So Glasgow was really lucky… But there’s no… You went in there and you wouldn’t see another punk hanging around. It wasn’t like Rough Trade sort of ambience. There wasn’t a pub you’d go to with them.

M: Do you have a complete run of RTs?

D: Apart from Issue 4 – we have a 4 here from the LCC. They’ve actually got one of the last copies of RT4…

M: How much for this?

D: I think they’re selling it… a three figure sum I think it is. It’s not 1999.

M: Yeah, we’re looking at this catalogue – it comes out of the Netherlands and France, there are two dealers. And it’s rife with, eh, punk fanzines from 76 onwards…

D: And prices…

M: Well prices are extraordinary. There’s nothing hardly below €300.

D: So what’s this table worth do you reckon?

M: This table, I would imagine this table would be worth about maybe between ten and twenty thousand pounds.

D: We’re rich!

M: We’re rich in fanzines. But the thing is that we don’t want to sell our fanzines because money is for squares. We’ll take the fanzines to our grave.

D: That’s my problem. That’s why I never made it.

M: So in each of the RTs you had a chart which is not your chart, but is a chart from readers, they’d send in their favourite records.

D: That’s right. Send in your top ten favourite LPs and singles – a list of them. Not a list of them. If I’d been sent lists. I’d compile the charts – for RT1…

M: So RT1 must have just been you.

D: Me and the Skid Kid put it together. We had Ramones Number 1, Jonathan Richmond Modern Lovers album number 1.

M: And New Rose by Damned is number 2, eh. And did you own all these records? And how else would you hear them? Was much played on the radio at the time?

D: No, I think I put something in RT1 here about the BBC

M: The BBC? Did they have a clue?

D: John Peel did a sort of punk night one night. He took some stuff off Live at CBGBs, Kansas City…

M: That must have been pretty exciting to hear that.

D: It was a whole two hours I taped the whole show. I played that every day. And, em, I put on here ‘We Vibrate’ by the Vibrators was played on the Simon Bates show, which was a mainstream morning show.

M: THURSTON READS ARTICLE. What do you think?! 2016 – forty years later, you’re actually on BBC Two, talking about 1976 punk rock.

D: Unbelievable. I wrote that, I would never have thought it possible.

M: Well maybe you should do a new issue of RT, to serve, maybe… I take it all back [laughs]

D: The director’s cut of this one. What it really meant, and what happened afterwards.

M: After RT you did KYPP.

D: Yeah, I moved on to KYPP.

M: In ’80, I think it was?

D: Dec 79 I think. So the last RT I did was April 79 and KYPP came out in… December…. It was sold at an Ants NYE gig. So…

M: So Vermillion continues RT and you have a whole new…

D: I wanted to try something different. I went in a different direction.

M: And what was the aesthetic difference in a way? It looks a bit more… I don’t know, kind of wilder or something.

D: Yeah, I think the printer Joly. He had some… he sort of approached me about doing something. He had some new printing presses. He wanted to try something to experiment with.

M: So Jolly at Better Badges was really important to fanzine culture in the 70s wasn’t he?

D: He was, certainly in the 80s, around all the country at gigs with his Better Badges stall, and then he’d go back to London and go to Rough Trade…

M: He had a presence at the RT store where he would help fanzines be printed and assembled…

D: Well, he was working at Better Badges up the road. On Portobello itself. RT is on Kensington Park Rd. So you’ve got badges made elsewhere. He could start to print A4 fanzines. And then you had this idea of doing colour on colour. He did a lot of flyers for gigs at this time. This style of rainbow printing, it became his look, his way of doing things. And so he used to print a lot of fanzines, cornering the market really.

M: Do you keep in touch with Jolly?

D: He’s moved to NYC.

M: Yeah, I would see him all the time in my NYC years. He’s great; he’s still setting up all these… Sells some badges at gigs. And he’d ask and he has this long hair and smoking spliff and selling badges. And he was fabulous in the sense that that’s what he does and he does it perfectly. But the fact that he lends his knowledge of craft to anybody who wants to do something, and do it themselves. So he’s kind of the DIY king.

D: He didn’t go back into printing then? Cause he does a lot of audio stuff, doesn’t he?

M: I think so.

D: A lot of events and conferences.

M: He does. He’s a great archivist. Of his own accord obviously.

D: He used to help people, fanzine writers. If you wanted some spare cash, you’d go around to his over a weekend and make badges. So that means you’d have to pull the thing down. All these punk rockers would be in his basement churning out badges for £20 or £5 a day. So if you were stuck for cash, you’d go down to his dungeon.


M: So were you into pit punk? Were you at the front of gigs pogo-ing? Gobbing?

D: Not gobbing. I think gobbing was a bit of a myth.

M: Really? Sometimes I read a lot of interviews about fanzines where they just talk about being gobbed on and how it’s a bit of a bummer.

D: It may have been outside London, but I’ve never seen it. In London, I saw pogo-ing friends. It wasn’t violent… We used to call it chicken dance later, because people used to swing their elbows out to scare people off. But the actual pogoing, jumping up and down, I think that was a bit of a myth as well. We used to dance kicking their legs together like that.

M: Like skank dancing!

D: Yeah! That sort of space but a bit more militaristic if you like. Clearing a space. But…

M: So what made you…? Did you feel you’d been led out of punk, or did you feel like punk was changing into different things?

D: I think it developed. To me, I think punk never died, it’s evolved and things have come out. And sometimes you have old school punk band like Flowers and the Dustbin. So I’m going to see a band in a small venue. But I think it just developed – people developed their own worlds really.

M: Did you continue to follow a lot of the music like PiL and going into bands of that era, going into My Bloody Valentine, Nirvana, the 90s – what was your trajectory of music listening?

D: I call it my gestalt  movement. When Crass appeared, 79 or 78 I first got the cassette. It was like this is what we were meant to be doing in the first place. I just got… This is it, and all the hard core anarchists writing and all the paraphernalia that went with Crass. It was a full on package of saying ‘In all your decadence people die’. Punk’s gone decadent – all the alternative lifestyle’s gone decadent. And that just like why – this is it. And Puppy and everything that came with it, after that is all there. Ants, Crass, Juno – that became the lifestyle. And the Ants at that point were still an unsigned band. Very very powerful music. But decadent. That’s the decadence, that’s the all your decadence people will die. So it’s combined – a lot of leather jackets would have Crass and Ants combined. There was no contradiction in liking both of them at all, which is all fanzine led information about them. And that became anarcho punk – and anarcho punk came out of that Crass chasm and ability to produce so much stuff. And quality stuff. After that, I think it became more interesting, all the psychobilly, and Goth stuff. All the Batcave stuff. Alien Sex Fiend. Taking the edges of the Ants world a bit further. On that side, I really liked the gun club, all that swampy, gothic, psychobilly stuff, and then you had the Crass stuff. My record collection… A bit like when new wave came out, and The Clash, Blondie, Pretenders, Elvis Costello.

M: At some point you stop publishing KYPP and you go off into your life, whatever you do.

D: Do you want to know what happened after? We went into festivals. The Stonehenge festival and things like that were starting to become punk infiltrated. There was a band called the Mob from the West Country. They knew all the festivals, they played them all and introduced bands to play the festivals. Poison Girls played the festivals. We started going to them. And at the festivals, they started fire=breathing, juggling, the Tibetan-Ukrainian… LIFE STORY.



The Mob – Meanwhile Gardens – August 1983 / The Clefts – 1981 / Ritual – 1982 / Kindergartan – 1985 / Yabby You And The Prophets – 1975 / The Apostles – 1986

A KYPP catch up on recent You Tube posts that have been published recently.

The Mob – Meanwhile Gardens – August – 1983 part 1

The Mob – Meanwhile Gardens – August – 1983 part 2

Uploaded tonight is a wonderful performance from The Mob, recorded at Meanwhile Gardens near Westbourne Park in the summer of 1983.

The audio is a second generation copy of the cassette that Protag, who was looking after the vulnerable P.A system on the day, recorded via the mixing desk.

I will endeavor to upload some more performances from The Mob in the future.

For downloads of this performance go to this KYPP post HERE

All the photographs are from the collections of Mick Lugworm and Tony D.

A photograph was taken at the pub next to the canal opposite Meanwhile Gardens. Some photographs were taken at Meanwhile Gardens. Some photographs were taken of various people walking to the Centro Iberico, a short walk from Meanwhile Gardens.Some photographs were taken outside and inside the Centro Iberico.

The rough typed interviews with The Mob are written and typed by Tony D and also from his collection.

The best I could do was to supply the Wilf drawings at the beginning and end, which are from my collection.

Oh and the cassette tape, which I guess is quite important considering!

Dedicated to Naomi Okada – This will put the book into some kind of perspective.

Red White And Blue

Premature Burial / Black Death

Some years after The Clefts had split up, I got to know Clive, the ex guitarist, and his brother Frank, the ex vocalist.

Although from Letchworth Garden City, the brothers were seen inside the nearby Stevenage venue, the Bowes Lyon House for the weekly punk nights on a regular basis.

Clive and his brother produced screen printed T – shirts from their mothers home, and sold them via the back pages of the music weeklies, at gigs, and from word of mouth.

Anyone that you saw with a Rudimentary Peni, UK Decay, Subhumans or Flux Of Pink Indians T – shirt, back in the early – mid 1980’s, would have got them from Clive and Franks micro business. The brothers were not bootlegging, always getting permission to produce designs on behalf of the bands. There were too many bands to mention on here, but I had several, including my adored Chron Gen T – shirts.

A few years down the line, it was Clive that printed all of the King Penguin Distribution catalogues, that I would send out or give away at gigs. There were three catalogues in all. Thanks for that grafting Clive! King Penguin Distribution managed to sell many of the designs that were still available back in the 1980’s, lovingly screen printed by Clive and Frank.

Clive still has a hand in T – shirt manufacturing, and has an eBay store. Some selected shirts still remain from those glory years but not too many sadly…

HERE is the eBay store details for Clive’s screen printing business.

The Clefts were ‘formed’ in the summer of 1978, although this school boy band only had two Spanish guitars, a biscuit tin, and a cymbal half inched by Frank from the school.

By 1979, after actually owning some cheap instruments, The Clefts started to get a sound influenced, not by Sex Pistols, but by the Swell Maps and the Mekons, and started performing a few gigs. I understand that a ‘few’ means exactly that, not many at all.

The band supported Patrik Fitzgerald at the Bowes Lyon House in 1980, with a new drummer that had joined the night before. A friend of Jon Thurlow ex of Optional Extras, and soon to become the guitarist of Chron Gen. I think The Clefts were first support to Crisis when that band visited Letchworth Garden City.

This record recorded in 1981 shares a sound similar to Part 1, a band from Bletchley in Buckinghamshire that were active around the same time. This is probably down to coincidence rather than either band forcing the sound. It’s more than very unlikely that either band had heard of the other band.

From what I understand there were only 750 copies of this 7″ single produced, making it outsell any other Letchworth Garden City band by around 750 copies.

Songs For A Dead King side 1

Songs For A Dead King side 2

Some members of the band Ritual had started practicing and performing sporadically, in 1979 as General Confusion. Only settling line ups and the name Ritual in 1981.

Ritual were one of the first ‘positive’ punk bands but never got the same recognition as Sex Gang Children or Southern Death Cult did in and around 1981 / 82.

Many compare Ritual to Theatre of Hate as the band also had a sax player. There could be comparisons to many other bands in parts. U.K Decay being an obvious one. Lack Of Knowledge and Part 1 being less obvious.

Prior to the ‘Mind Disease’ 7″ single, Ritual released a six track demo tape.

They also recorded tracks for a cassette album called “Songs For A Dead King” which was released with a booklet.

The booklet is featured page by page on this YouTube video.

‘Songs For A Dead King’ has some decent demo quality songs within the thirteen songs on the cassette, but I feel is slightly let down by the addition of a few ‘live’ recordings.

This is just me. I am a little O.C.D when it comes to albums released on vinyl, cassette or even 7″ E.P’s.

Either record and release a studio session, whether that means less tracks (as studios were expensive, then and now) or record a full on ‘live’ album.

I’m fine with either, but not mixed together.

Classic studio albums and classic ‘live’ albums are in abundance.

Mix the two and you begin to end up with, in my opinion (as if that would matter) a rather more ‘desperate’ release.

Anyway carrying on.

In 1983, Ritual re-recorded ‘Brides’, a track from the first demo cassette tape, and from the ‘Songs For A Dead King’ cassette tape.

The song was released as part of the ‘Kangaroo Court ‘ 12″ single. By far Ritual’s best release, and sadly their last.

The band fell apart as drummer Ray Mondo and guitar player Jamie Stewart were asked to join Death Cult.

Ray Mondo later switched the Death Cult drummer seat with Nigel Preston (ex-Theatre of Hate) to be the drummer in the last line up of the (early) Sex Gang Children. Vocalist Errol Blythe and bass player Mark Bond joined Spon (ex-UK Decay) to form In Excelsis.

Both the Ritual singles, and the cassette tape ‘Songs For A Dead King’ can be downloaded on the KYPP post HERE.

Hope you like this post, and remember that the images accompanying the audio is the original booklet scanned in full.

World Turned Upside Down

Double Standards / Carbon

Kindergarten along with Lack Of Knowledge were one of the Enfield area bands, although by the time of this record being released some members of the band were holed up at Lansdowne Road in Tottenham, N17 within cheering distance of the football stadium there.

The band were connected to Tea House Camp not only by location (a member of Tea House Camp also lived at Lansdowne Road) but also by constantly performing together at various gigs around the North London area. Kindergarten were the heavier sounding of these two bands with a sound reminiscent of Killing Joke.

Tea House Camp were actually from Bradford, home of New Model Army and Southern Death Cult and were just temporarily based in London. Both brothers in that three piece band were actively employed by doing stints at Rough Trade Distribution, then based at Collier Street in Kings Cross, N1.

Kindergarten had quite a decent following at those North London gigs and I saw them a fair few times. A lot of Play Dead and New Model Army types used to come to the performances, including the infamous Nick The Frog. Joolz, the Bradford poetess and Justin from New Model Army would come along now and again and those two would also invite the band to there private parties in Stamford Hill which were fun. The couple that I went to were, in any case…

Gig highlights for me were performances at The Three Crowns in Stoke Newington on one of Jon Fat Beasts free entry gigs and The Boston Arms in Tufnell Park which was an all day gig with Brigandage, Rubella Ballet, Ausgang and Tea House Camp performing among a host of others.

The debut 7″ single, released on Diamond Records, ‘Warrior / Ha Ha Ha!’ had been released and sold out pretty fast, as far as I recall.

While an idea of recording the second single was in the air I was paying a visit to Lansdowne Road and it was discussed that the band wanted to place mugshots of various people onto the eventual artwork.

I went out to the nearest photo booth with Magnus who was quite an infamous character. He was a relatively well connected roadie and did a fair amount of regular work at the Clarendon in Hammersmith. The list of bands that he had worked for was quite vast including New Model Army, The Cult, Play Dead as well as Tea House Camp and Kindergarten.

We came away with four mugshots from Seven Sisters tube station and wondered back to Lansdowne Road where we placed them in a pile with other booth photographs already collated.

Around half a year later the record had been recorded and pressed and artwork ready to go to the printers and I was quite chuffed to see that three of the four photo booth photos that myself and Magnus had handed in, had been used. One of me, one of Magnus with his treasured (and seemingly always worn) eagle baseball cap, and one of the both of us together. Nick The Frog is one the sleeve twice although both the same booth photograph, but one of them has a sword drawn onto it! My younger brothers girlfriend of the time named Amy was also on the inside cover…

For the downloads of both singles released by Kindergarten go onto this KYPP post HERE.


Vivian Jackson and The Prophets side 1

Vivian Jackson and The Prophets side 2

This debut collection of recordings that were recorded by Vivian Jackson and The Prophets, included various 7″ single tracks dating from 1972 until 1974, on Jamaican record labels that were released in amazingly small quantities of no more than two hundred copies originally.

The album I have in my collection, credited to Vivian Jackon (sic) and his ‘Yabby You’ nickname, is the very first pressing on the Prophet records label, run by Vivian Jackson himself, that got distributed among the wave of militant roots reggae music that had became so popular in the large towns and cities of Jamaica in 1977. Some copies making there way to Europe, and specifically to the UK. Artists like Culture, Burning Spear and The Congos and many more helped pave the way for this music in the UK, with a large amount of help from late night radio DJ’s David Rodigen and John Peel.

The original pressing of this album was released in 1975 on the Micron record label, quickly followed in 1976 by the only UK version of the album to be released. ‘Conquering Lion’ was renamed ‘Ram A Dam’ for the UK market, and contained most of the tracks on the Micron Records pressing, although in a different running order. ‘Yabby U and The Prophets’ was the revised artist name and the album was released on the Lucky record label.

If you own a copy on either of the Micron or Lucky record labels then you have a real treasure. Look after it. They are worth hundreds and hundreds of dollars.

My heavy weight first pressing, with it’s heavyweight cardboard sleeve released on the Prophet record label, is rare enough, but willing to trade for a Micron issue!

Vivian Jackson was born in extreme poverty in Kingston and got seriously ill in his teens while working at a furnace facility. Thrown out of his employment, he had no choice but to became a beggar and hustler around the markets, in the tough ghetto’s of Kingston. Vivian being disabled and in such a ragged state, no one would employ him, added to this situation, he also had his share of knocks living on the street.

He eventually started to compose songs and, as normal with Jamaican artists, visited many recording studios and sung acapella style to the studio owners. Osbourne Ruddock AKA King Tubby told the artist to come back to the studio with the (ever so) important JA dollars, and they would cut a vocal and a dub.

Vivian had no money and had to wait quite some time to go back to the studio, this time with The Prophets (actually originally credited as Ralph Brothers on the final released record in 1972) to get ‘Conquering Lion’ down on dub-plate with a King Tubby’s dub on the reverse side.

This dub-plate, as usual in Jamaica, was played on the sound system that was affiliated with the studio the tracks were recorded in; King Tubby’s sound system in this case, and from the reaction from the crowd at the dances, a few hundred copies were pressed up on the NOW label. These copies sold out and gave Vivian his first steps in the industry, to build up a working relationship with Tubby that would last several years.

The ‘Conquering Lion’ album is filled with tracks that are sublimely beautiful, and without doubt some of the best roots music ever produced by any artist. Quite frankly, a cornerstone of the reggae genre. It is also one of my very favorite records, of any genre.

The original KYPP post HERE.

The Apostles Live At The Aktion Klub side 1

The Apostles Live At The Aktion Klub side 2

I knew Andy Martin and Dave Fanning of The Apostles reasonably well, when they both moved to 108 Brougham Road Hackney.

I was visiting Brougham Road several times a week, as I had nothing better to do with my time locally, so I was volunteering my time to All The Madmen records, a record label based at 96 Brougham Road.

I stayed over both houses on occasions, and even painted the inside of 108 Brougham Road once, much to the appreciation of Andy Martin and Dave!

Andy Martin was very kind to me in general, and in the case of painting his hallways, landings and other parts of the house, he gave me three cassettes.

One of which is uploaded onto this YouTube post today.

[I was happy for the cassettes – I was not expected to be paid as I wanted to be useful]

There were times when the Hackney Hell Crew were staying there and others would visit.

The Hackney Hell Crew members that I remember being in the house on a regular basis were Pus (Goatsbreath), Ollie, Simo and Martin Barabbas… Two of those Hackney Hell Crew members are no longer with us, and haven’t been for some decades now…

Ollie and Martin Barabbas were both in The Apostles in 1984 recording the 4th E.P ‘The Giving Of Love Costs Nothing’ (ironic title given the subject matter on this E.P) and the 5th E.P ‘Smash the Spectacle’ recorded in 1985.

Now and again, Andy and Dave would jam in the practice room at 108 Brougham Road aided and abetted by whoever was around the house at the time. I banged a drum on the odd occasion.

The ‘Aktion Klub’ was based at 108 Brougham Road, it wasn’t a club, there were no flyers to advertise, and there was not really an audience, save whoever was around the house at the time, there were no regular events.

The Apostles on this session respectably sound like their influences, Whitehouse / Come Organisation, Throbbing Gristle, ‘Vibing Up The Senile Man’ era Alternative T.V and Psychic T.V.

This recording can be hard to listen to, unless of course, you have an ear for this kind of thing.

The visuals that accompany the audio on this YouTube post are two scans of my original cassette tape given to me (as a set) from Andy Martin for painting large areas of the house, and with a nice touch, there is a picture he drew of me, the way I looked in 1985 and 1986.
I am not sure what the hands covering my ears reference is. Perhaps he thought I would hate the material on the cassette tape!

Also scanned are two photographs from my collection of the back garden and Dave Fanning’s bedroom at 108 Brougham Road.
These photographs were taken by my younger brother for an art project he was involved in. I have the original photographs though.

There is an old KYPP post with this cassette uploading onto it if anyone wants or feels the need to download the audio HERE.

This is The Apostles ‘Industrial’ side.

The Apostles ‘Punk’ side will be uploaded onto YouTube at some point in the future.