{"id":8660,"date":"2016-05-31T17:26:00","date_gmt":"2016-05-31T16:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/killyourpetpuppy.co.uk\/news\/?p=8660"},"modified":"2016-07-06T00:23:25","modified_gmt":"2016-07-05T23:23:25","slug":"the-apostles-the-mob-london-musicians-collective-january-1983-the-cravats-southern-studio-original-mixes-1981-augustus-pablo-atra-records-1980-zos-kia-all-the-madmen-records-19","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/killyourpetpuppy.co.uk\/news\/the-apostles-the-mob-london-musicians-collective-january-1983-the-cravats-southern-studio-original-mixes-1981-augustus-pablo-atra-records-1980-zos-kia-all-the-madmen-records-19\/","title":{"rendered":"The Apostles &#038; The Mob &#8211; London Musicians Collective &#8211; January 1983 \/ The Cravats &#8211; Southern Studio original mixes &#8211; 1981 \/ Augustus Pablo &#8211; Atra Records &#8211; 1980 \/ Zos Kia &#8211; All The Madmen Records &#8211; 1984 \/ The Mob &#8211; Amsterdam &#8211; June 1979 \/ The Turdburglers &#8211; 1981 \/ 1982"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/j6f8kG-3DN8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/77zv0ebnhamrcij\/The_Apostles_-_L.M.C0001.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">The Apostles at L.M.C<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/k7kcus6aa25lzgb\/The_Mob_-_L.M.C0001.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">The Mob at L.M.C<\/a><\/p>\n<p>First there was a cassette.<\/p>\n<p>The Apostles and The Mob recorded on a cassette recorder from the audience.<\/p>\n<p>The cassette was available in 1983 via Larry Peterson\u2019s Cause For Concern cassette tape label. This cassette tape label generally veered towards industrial experimental music, more so than punk or anarcho punk. Throbbing Gristle, Nocturnal Emissions and others.<\/p>\n<p>This was an era when Andee Martian had an interest in the kind of music Larry Peterson was involved with releasing.<\/p>\n<p>They both shared an appreciation of Whitehouse as well.<\/p>\n<p>Andee Martian was helping to organise bi-monthly concerts at the L.M.C in Camden. Andee Martian recalls:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe LMC, Camden, London NWI: September 1982 \u2013 February 1983<\/p>\n<p>Organized by The Apostles and East London Workers Against Racism, this was more an alternative venue than a club. The organization here was minimal and suffered from a lack of PA equipment, an abundance of people who shouldn\u2019t really have existed in a society that had long ago discovered penicillin and a financial situation strictly from Mickey Mouse. The bands who played here were, though, committed and varied: The Replaceable Headz, The Mob, Four Minute Warning, Zounds, Rack, Cold War, Twelve Cubic Feet, The Apostles, Flux Of Pink Indians, The Good Missionaries, Youth In Asia, Fallout, New 7th Music and a variety of poets and performance artists plus many other punk bands. Music events were the only things on offer here as bills had to be paid and the hall had to be hired. People have a tendency not to rush out to Camden from Gravesend and pay \u00a31.50 to debate the politics of determinism versus free will\u2026 a pity really\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Andee organised a concert with his band, The Apostles, and The Mob.<\/p>\n<p>J.C who was the Treasurer of the Brougham Road Housing Co-Operative, where members of The Mob and Zounds were, or had been housed, also had a rickety P.A for hire.<\/p>\n<p>On this night, J.C turned down Andee\u2019s vocals during the song \u2018Pigs For Slaughter\u2019 which was towards the end of The Apostles set. Whether this was pressure from some audience members, or a decision by J.C himself I have no clue. A line was drawn in the sand and the P.A was on the \u2018side\u2019 of pacifism and not direct action. Whatever the reason, The Apostles cut short their set, and The Mob took over the stage.<\/p>\n<p>This censorship issue was worthy enough in the minds of Andee and Dave Fanning (the bassist, sometime writer, artist and vocalist) that a small paragraph about it ended up on the cover of the first 7\u2033 single from The Apostles released in 1983 credited to Dave.<\/p>\n<p>It read as a rant against fake anarchists, pacifists and petty minded P.A operators\u2026 and so forth. Interestingly there was also a rant about Tony D (again credited to Dave), and the threat of violence towards him, for \u2018not paying Little A printers for the costs of publishing KYPP 6 (or 5?)\u2019. The bill to Little A printers was settled prior to The Apostles first 7\u2033 single being available, so that paragraph on the sleeve, due to the delay was somewhat out of date! Thankfully Tony D was relieved to have kept all of his fingers, a main bullet point of the threat on the record sleeve!<\/p>\n<p>Larry Peterson went to work on duplicating his original recording of the concert onto cassettes with a sleeve that folk could purchase by mail order or at concerts. Tellingly the cassette sleeve states: Pacifist PA Promotions!<\/p>\n<p>The audio is extremely rough, but the listener can get a idea of the concert.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly there was an album.<\/p>\n<p>1984 and Larry Peterson released a Throbbing Gristle album on vinyl, in 1985 (or 1986?), he released his second vinyl for the Cause For Concern label.<\/p>\n<p>This second vinyl released was a better sounding version of that old cassette originally released in 1983, due to the mastering needed for the metal stampers. I think there were 900 copies manufactured.<\/p>\n<p>I knew J.C during the mid 1980\u2019s while he was living at Brougham Road, and he had shrugged his shoulders, and sniggered slightly while discussing the L.M.C incident.<\/p>\n<p>Andee I knew at this point as well, another Brougham Road resident at this point. I cannot remember discussing this issue with him, but I might have.<\/p>\n<p>Larry Peterson I had never met, but when I did, and it was just the once, he mentioned that J.C had \u2018loaned\u2019 him a bus to go to Europe (Spain?) picking fruit one summer, and the bus ended up breaking down. Larry then left it on the roadside and eventually found an alternative route back when he needed to return to London!<\/p>\n<p>I understood that J.C was not best pleased!<\/p>\n<p>The audio for this YouTube post has been ripped off of my vinyl version, as the quality is better, but I have scanned in the original cassette sleeve, and the original cassette. Obviously I have also added the sleeve, ahem, design\u2026<\/p>\n<p>For what it\u2019s worth!<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/I6tPvojy7IA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/d5vrc47x0rc7hfa\/The_Cravats_-_Southern_Studio_Original_Mixes0001.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Side 1<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/r5y95zzy37srvxg\/The_Cravats_-_Southern_Studio_Original_Mixes0002.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Side 2<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Cravats fourth release for the Small Wonder record label, was the result of the band hooking up with Penny Rimbaud, the drummer with Crass and was recorded at Southern Studios in Wood Green, North London\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Penny managed to capture a darker sound for the band culminating in the tracks.\u2019You\u2019re Driving Me \/ I Am The Dreg\u2019 which became The Cravats fourth attempt to tentatively stick its head above the parapet.<\/p>\n<p>Although the eventual 7\u2033 single, didn\u2019t fare very well on release in March 1981, it was the start of a more cohesive sound for the band that seemed to be finding it\u2019s feet in the studio.<\/p>\n<p>These versions of \u2018Dregs\u2019 and \u2018You\u2019re Driving Me\u2019 are on a cassette tape from Southern Studios labelled \u2018Original Mixes\u2019 and are different to the official 7\u2033 single release.<\/p>\n<p>The photographs of the actual recording session at Southern Studios that are featured in the middle of this YouTube post are from the collection of The Cravats.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Hcni7XlwNf0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/b63z361tsun5iue\/Augustus_Pablo_-_Santic0001.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Side 1<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/e49f3i258n3ff15\/Augustus_Pablo_-_Santic0002.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Side 2<\/a><\/p>\n<p>One brilliant compilation album focusing on the Santic record label. Horace Andy\u2019s, \u2018Children Of Israel\u2019 and \u2018Problems\u2019 are worth the price of admission by themselves. One side concentrated \u2018Pablo\u2019, second side, various artists.<\/p>\n<p>Snippet of an interview with Leonard \u2018Santic\u2019 Chin:<\/p>\n<p>When I came in the business men like Bunny Lee and them were much older people than me, that\u2019s what I thought, he was a bigger man in the business. I was just a youth getting in there. It\u2019s not really about everybody liking you but, with most of them, I was alright\u2026 they\u2019d let me feel like I belonged. Maybe, as a youth, I was likeable. At the time I was the youngest producer coming out of Jamaica after Gussie Clarke. The other day Bunny was saying to me \u201cSantic you\u2019re a legend, you know!\u201d and I said \u201cCome on Bunny! What are you talking about?\u201d He said \u201cWithin that short space of time you were producing records in Jamaica you produced more hits than most of us! And you never had no big company like Dynamics behind you to help you either. One youth man making hit after hit! \u2018Pablo In Dub\u2019, \u2018Children Of Israel\u2019, \u2018Lovers Mood\u2019, \u2018Problems\u2019 \u2018Late Hour\u2019 with I Roy, \u2018I\u2019m A Free Man\u2019 with Freddie McKay\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Before even \u2018Pablo In Dub\u2019 I was recording a deejay named Jah Mojo. The first track I did with him was a tune named \u2018Nitty Gritty\u2019 and Bongo Herman was playing the drums. After that one I did a next tune with him named \u2018Yankee Conkee\u2019 and then I made this rhythm that I later used for \u2018Pablo In Dub\u2019, \u2018Children Of Israel\u2019 and \u2018Down Santic Way\u2019. Jah Mojo did a thing on it called \u2018Jacamma Rock\u2019 and it sold about a thousand and fifty copies. The rhythm was good\u2026 Aston \u2018Family Man\u2019 Barrett played the bass on it and his brother Carlton played the drums and there was a guy named \u2018Snapping\u2019 who played the piano\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Like I said when I went in the studio I was Sixteen. So I was just working with those guys, but I didn\u2019t know their history\u2026 as the years went by I got to understand more and, being in the business, I learnt more and more. A lot of people my age in Jamaica wouldn\u2019t know those things so that\u2019s how I get to know. Anyway, he played the piano. The organ player was Ossie Hibbert. I did a mix for the Jah Mojo record and everybody loved the rhythm. One time Leroy Sibbles and some other people were standing up in Randy\u2019s and Leroy said \u201cThis rhythm a bad! It\u2019s like the bass carry the melody by itself\u201d and then I decided to do a next mix of it.Eventually\u2026 things just happen sometimes when they\u2019re supposed to happen.<\/p>\n<p>I went up to Randy\u2019s and mixed the tune\u2026 and for some reason Pablo just walked into the studio that evening and said \u201cThat rhythm there sound good!\u201d So I said \u201cBlow a thing on it now then, man!\u201d I was into Pablo from \u2018Java\u2019 and was always asking him to do a tune for me and he used to smile and say I couldn\u2019t afford to pay him and all those things there. He said \u201cYou\u2019ll have to ask my manager Paul\u201d and his manager said \u201cAlright\u2026 do you have any weed?\u201d My brethren, Carl Prehay, was there and he said \u201cYeah man\u2026 we have the boom!\u201d And we bought a few Red Stripe beers, took the next two hours in the studio, set up the tape and he just blew through the tune a couple of times. The next one was a take and I said \u201cThis is \u2018Pablo In Dub'\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>After \u2018Pablo In Dub\u2019 got on the Top Five it went to Number One for a week and then dropped back to Number Two and I asked Horace Andy if he could sing a tune on it for me. He loved the rhythm from time too\u2026 the Pablo version was so popular! Horace just came in the studio\u2026 it was a Friday morning. The day before I\u2019d got Leroy Sibbles to put in the rhythm guitar because \u2018Pablo In Dub\u2019 never had a rhythm guitar in it. So it was Leroy Sibbles who actually chopped the rhythm guitar in it and then, the following day, I got Horace to sing on the rhythm. We played the rhythm track and Horace ad libbed and said \u201cErrol!\u2019 Rewind back the tape there\u201d and he sang \u2018Children of Israel\u2026\u2019 and went through it once, wrote some more lyrics, went through it again and half way through he said \u201cNow run the tape Errol. And take it too!\u201d We did \u2018Children Of Israel\u2019 and \u2018Problems\u2019 both at the same time. We didn\u2019t spend two hours to do all that! The lyrics were written and voiced at that moment. There and then.<\/p>\n<p>The ultimate Santic Records compilation released by Pressure Sounds is well worth getting hold of; <span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pressure.co.uk\/store\/PS66\/various-artists-harder-shade-of-black\/\" target=\"_blank\">HERE<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><\/span>Please do so\u2026 All the songs are pure magic.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ca-KIUt1yPA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The original KYPP post to read and download the tracks <a href=\"http:\/\/killyourpetpuppy.co.uk\/news\/zos-kia-all-the-madmen-records-1986\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>HERE<\/strong><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Zos Kia \u2018Rape \/ Thank You\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Originally released as a 7\u2033 single on the All The Madmen record label in 1984. Alistair, who was running All The Madmen Records throughout that year, was for several years, also involved with the Kill Your Pet Puppy fanzine. That fanzine\u2019s last issue (number six) was published in the Autumn of 1983.<\/p>\n<p>Alistair had also created his own fanzine during 1983, Encyclopedia Of Ecstasy, a fanzine that lasted for three issues.<\/p>\n<p>All The Madmen Records released many important records throughout, inspiring to many, including myself.<\/p>\n<p>This record, specifically the song \u2018Rape\u2019, was by far the most difficult to listen to, both musically and lyrically.<\/p>\n<p>A very brave move from Alistair to have backed this project. And, it must be added, a very brave testament to Min, sharing this extremely harrowing experience to those that heard the song.<\/p>\n<p>In-between The Mob, Flowers In The Dustbin, The Astronauts, Blyth Power and Thatcher On Acid, this record by Zos Kia was out there on their own.<\/p>\n<p>Literally.<\/p>\n<p>Standing alone as an industrial record from an industrial band within the All The Madmen roster, rather than guitar based records from guitar based bands.<\/p>\n<p>Zos Kia still holds that niche position in the All The Madmen catalogue.<\/p>\n<p>The release of the Clair Obscur album \u2018The Pilgrims Progress\u2019 in 1986, came close to siding with Zos Kia. But never quite close enough.<\/p>\n<p>Zos Kia \/ Thank You \/ Black Action \/ The Absolute<\/p>\n<p>The re-release was organised by the new man in charge of All The Madmen Records from 1985, Rob Challice.<\/p>\n<p>Due to the many letters received via Wot Distribution inquiring about purchasing the 7\u2033 single which had been out of circulation since the first pressing of the record, Rob, in collaboration with John Gosling, decided on a re-release.<\/p>\n<p>In 1986, the original two tracks from the 7\u2033 single, were placed onto a 12\u2033 extended play single with two new unreleased Zos Kia tracks that were recorded in 1985 added. This 12\u2033 extended play single quickly sold out, and as far as I remember was never re-pressed. Making both formats of this record collectors items!<\/p>\n<p>Min, a Kill Your Pet Puppy Collective member was the vocalist for Zos Kia on \u2018Rape\u2019, a true account of her feelings during an attack that she had suffered in Australia.<\/p>\n<p>An extremely harrowing and brave performance from Min on this track, not easy listening whatsoever.<\/p>\n<p>John Gosling is on the vocal duties for \u2018Thank You\u2019 and \u2018Black Action\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Alex Ferguson and Genesis P-Orridge, both Psychic TV members at that time were involved in the recording and the engineering of the two tracks, \u2018Rape\u2019 and \u2018Thank You\u2019, that were originally released on the 7\u2033 single in 1984.<\/p>\n<p>John Gosling also begun to work within the Temple Of Psychic Youth organisation, and from 1984 to 1986, performing live and in the studio with Psychic TV.<\/p>\n<p>Zos Kia released a couple more 12\u2033 singles on Psychic TV\u2019s Temple Records, one was released in 1985 and one in 1987.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you to Min, for supplying me with the photographs of Zos Kia performing at the Berlin Atonal Festival in 1984, that I have used for this YouTube post.<\/p>\n<p>All the other bits are from my collection.<\/p>\n<p>The cassette of Zos Kia at the Berlin Atonal festival is below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/k1e8yL90oOA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/oGlSdykrmzA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/8hxqagob4z2nx5w\/The_Mob_-_Amsterdam_-_June_19790001.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">The Mob Amsterdam 1979<\/a><\/p>\n<p>A mixing desk cassette tape of a performance by The Mob and a good example of the set list at that time in 1979.<\/p>\n<p>The mini European tour that this gig was included on, was with Here And Now and a bus load of other support acts, including Zounds.<\/p>\n<p>I have a mixing desk cassette tape of The Mob in Arnhem (also in Holland) recorded on the 2nd June 1979 and that may be listened to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=WA49cIYp00g\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>HERE\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The songs performed at this gig in Amsterdam were written way before the \u2018peace punk\u2019 tag that The Mob carried around until the end of 1983, and that the band are better known for.<\/p>\n<p>These songs will surprise many listeners. Some of these songs did end up being recorded cheaply and placed onto various compilation cassette tapes, generally released on Jonathan Barnett\u2019s \u2018Weird Tales\u2019 cassette imprint. Jonathan Barnett was a one time roadie for Here And Now, Zounds and several other \u2018free festival\u2019 bands of that era. He was also in charge of Genius Records, a record label that were responsible (in part) for releasing the debut Astronauts album \u2018Peter Pan Hits The Suburbs\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Many of the songs performed are raw and basic, although a few of the songs in the early set, did make it through until the end of 1983. Namely \u2018What\u2019s Going On?\u2019, \u2018Youth\u2019, and \u2018The Mirror Breaks\u2019. Of course those songs are still included in The Mob\u2019s set in the 2000\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>Most songs performed at this gig, and throughout this era, were jettisoned in favour of the newer songs that were being written, eventually ending up on the album, \u2018Let The Tribe Increase\u2019 and of course\u2019 No Doves Fly Here\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Grant Showbiz, from Street Level studios, can be heard on the mixing desk mic. Mark, an able guitarist, suffering from several guitar string breakages on the night, a very angry bassist, and one shit hot drummer in Graham Fallows, who also sings a few of the tracks.<\/p>\n<p>There are two cover versions performed by The Mob during this gig in Amsterdam.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018It\u2019s A Rip Off\u2019 by T Rex and \u2018Louie Louie\u2019 originally by the Kingsmen of course.<\/p>\n<p>Enjoy the audio on this YouTube post, but, be wary, if you are hoping for the songs that later ended up on the \u2018Let The Tribe Increase\u2019 album, then prepare to be disappointed!<\/p>\n<p>Images are from the collections of:<\/p>\n<p>Mark Mob<br \/>\nAndy Tuck<br \/>\nNick Godwin<br \/>\nJoanne Childs<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to those folk.<\/p>\n<p>There is a cassette tape fault on this audio around the seventeen minute mark for ten seconds or so.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5quEpFhAkW8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/cxf6rm0mg6zg89o\/The_Turdburglars_Bayston_Rehearsal.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Bayston Road Rehearsal<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/pk8k16thg8i7ns3\/The_Turdburglars_Live_at_Wapping_Autonomy_Centre_31.12.81_Part_1.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Wapping Autonomy Centre 1<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediafire.com\/download\/sbtxbee57cmu57t\/The_Turdburglars_Live_at_Wapping_Autonomy_Centre_31.12.81_Part_2.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Wapping Autonomy Centre 2<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The only time that I read about The Turdburglars was a page or two in Kill Your Puppy fanzine issue 5 in 1982. I did not know the band, or what the band sounded like, or for that matter, the persons involved in the band.<\/p>\n<p>The only piece of information I ever received first hand on The Turdburglars was from Andee Martian of The Apostles in the mid 1980\u2019s, who spoke of an incident in which he described a face off between the band and himself. He claimed that The Turdburglars had written some unflattering songs about The Apostles, directed at himself specifically. The people that told Andee Martian this information were either incorrect themselves, or on a wind up. Andee went along to the band\u2019s squat to confront. Andee supposedly had a rant and a push around and left the squat red faced when he realised that the claims that he was told were incorrect in the first place*.<\/p>\n<p>* Actually Mick Lugworm has confirmed that The Turdburglars did have a song (not on this cassette tape) about Andee Martian; \u201cAndee kept threatening to throw people down the stairs so I wanted to cover \u2018Help me Mummy\u2019 by Rubella Ballet as \u2018Help Me Andee \u2013 Help Me Down The Stairs'\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>The Turdburglars did not release any records but these recordings do exist, for better or worse. Some might argue the latter! The material on this cassette contain a practise session at the squat in Bayston Road, Stoke Newington. After that there is a live performance at the Wapping Autonomy Centre from December 1981. All recorded in glorious lo-fi.<\/p>\n<p>The Turdburgars were made up of Mick Lugworm, Mark Ripper, Richard Scarecrow, and a Boiled Egg, Duncan Jack. All of whom were orbiting around that whole North London squatting scene of that time in the early 1980\u2019s, that bands like The Apostles, The Mob and Blood And Roses existed within. All of those worlds colliding in imperfect harmony with the Kill Your Pet Puppy Collective, passing Wapping Autonomy Centre on Westbourne Park Centro Ibrico on their outer-worldly orbital route. Drugs might have been taken, to keep the tribulations of the world outside the shabby squat doors and broken windows at bay.<\/p>\n<p>Indebted to Richard Scarecrow for supplying the audio for this YouTube post.<\/p>\n<p>Both of the written out sheets, which were the base for The Turdburglars piece in Kill Your Pet Puppy issue 5 are from Tony D\u2019s collection. Followed by the actual pages of that Kill Your Pet Puppy fanzine.<\/p>\n<p>Following those printed images there are dozens of period photographs in no particular order, of places and people that would have been circling The Turdburglers around that time in the early 1980\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>These photographs are from the collections of:<\/p>\n<p>Mick Lugworm<br \/>\nJon From Bromley<br \/>\nTony D<br \/>\nTod Hanson<br \/>\nRichard Scarecrow<br \/>\nMartin Black<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to those kindly folk.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Apostles at L.M.C The Mob at L.M.C First there was a cassette. The Apostles and The Mob recorded on a cassette recorder from the audience. The cassette was available in 1983 via Larry Peterson\u2019s Cause For Concern cassette tape label. 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