{"id":2408,"date":"2009-05-18T00:01:20","date_gmt":"2009-05-17T23:01:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.killyourpetpuppy.co.uk\/news\/?p=2408"},"modified":"2025-08-27T21:27:55","modified_gmt":"2025-08-27T20:27:55","slug":"wapping-autonomy-centre-061281","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/killyourpetpuppy.co.uk\/news\/wapping-autonomy-centre-061281\/","title":{"rendered":"Autonomy Centre, Wapping, London E1 – 06\/12\/81"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Tod Flack \/ Jon FB \/ Ian Cold War<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Ivan Assassins Of Hope \/ Cristina M<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Mick Lugworm (Kill Your Pet Puppy)
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Al Puppy (Kill Your Pet Puppy)<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Tufty<\/strong><\/p>\n

A whole evening at the Autonomy Centre in Wapping recorded in the audience by Jon From Bromley who is pictured\u00a0slap in the middle of the top photograph. Indebted to him for the lend of these tapes.<\/p>\n

Jon explained to me that he recorded a fair few gigs at this venue, alas most of those tapes have vanished or had been damaged beyond repair throughout the last couple of decades which of course is one heck of a shame…<\/p>\n

Still we do have these two cassettes surviving which is some kind of a blessing I suppose!<\/p>\n

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Andy<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Rachel<\/strong><\/p>\n

Andy Stratton’s Null And Void from Yeovil start off the\u00a0recorded cassettes with some great melodic passionate pleas, followed closely to what I believe is Hagar The Womb’s debut performance. As you would expect, a little shambolic but quite charming never the less. It must be said that\u00a0Hagar The Womb\u00a0performances did improve a tad\u00a0sometime later\u00a0on!\u00a0\u00a0Luz\u00a0Y Fuerza I know nothing of…Perhaps someone could fill me in via the comments. End of A side, cassette 1.<\/p>\n

Null And Void \/ Hagar The Womb \/ Luz\u00a0Y Fuerza<\/a><\/p>\n

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The Mob<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Mob follow on the B side with a blinding set with a rare live performance of ‘White Niggers’ off the Ching demo tape. End of B side cassette 1. Tim Hutton was drumming for the Mob at this gig and for some months prior. A little while later Tim joined Zounds, taking up the bass duties, while Steve Lake switched to rhythm guitar, while Josef Porta on the drums and Lawrence on the guitar continued ‘as is’. After Tim’s departure from the Mob, Josef Porta joined the Mob and for a while was the drummer for both bands, and for Null and Void as well!<\/p>\n

Tim never recorded on any records by The Mob, although he did record for Zounds, the drum duties for one of the bands best loved songs ‘Dancing’, along with that records B-side ‘True Love’. Afterwards Tim featured on ‘Knife’ the B-side of ‘More Trouble Everyday’ this time on the bass duties. Lastly Tim was involved with the ‘La Vache Qui Rit’ EP, again on bass duties, an EP which included the songs ‘Wolves’, ‘Biafra’, ‘Fear’ and ‘Not Me’.<\/p>\n

The Mob<\/a><\/p>\n

On the second cassette side 1,\u00a0a great performance by The Apostles with the line up of Andy Martin, Julian P, Pete B\u00a0and Dan Mc. End of A side cassette 2.<\/p>\n

The Apostles<\/a><\/p>\n

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Zounds\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Zounds completing the cassette collection, the way Null And Void started off, with a great performance and some great melodies. Josef Porta was the drummer for Null and Void and Zounds on this night. End of B side cassette 2.<\/p>\n

Zounds<\/a><\/p>\n

The actual band running order for this night\u00a0confirmed\u00a0by JFB was:<\/p>\n

Hagar The Womb<\/p>\n

Luz y Fuerza<\/p>\n

The Apostles<\/p>\n

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Null and Void\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Null And Void<\/p>\n

The Mob<\/p>\n

Zounds<\/p>\n

All the photographs courtesy of Tod, Jen W and Jon FB. <\/strong><\/p>\n

The text below by Andy Martin.<\/p>\n

The Autonomy Centre, Wapping Wall, London E1: August 1981 – March 1982<\/strong><\/span><\/h4>\n

Vince Stevenson, Iris Mills and Ronan Bennett, briefly infamous for the \u2018Persons Unknown\u2019 trail in 1979, later unwitting participants on a record sleeve by Crass worked hard to find, secure and decorate a social centre for anarchists and punks in the then useless, dangerous\u00a0and wrecked London docklands.<\/span><\/h4>\n

We provided \u2018the punks\u2019, they and the London Autonomists provided the words written in hundreds of pamphlets and leaflets handed out or left around the social centre. Crass and the Poison Girls raised the money for the venture originally through the sales of the split 7\u201d single \u2018Bloody Revolutions \/ Persons Unknown\u2019 on Crass Records. Many other people and bands assisted in raising money through benefit concerts including UB40.<\/span><\/h4>\n

The London Autonomists including Vince Stevenson, Charlotte Baggins, Martin Wright, Dave Couch, Ronan Bennett, Iris Mills and Fabian Thomsett with assistance from Andy Martin, Peat Protest, Martin Cobb, Luke, Trevor, Michael, Terry Watson, Mitch, John Soares, Dagenham Pete, Rob Dellar, Rachel, Nick and Grant of Rudimentary Peni, Ian Slaughter, Mark Ripper, Fod, Scarecrow, Tod, all the Kill Your Pet Puppy Collective, helped, assisted, aided and abetted the setting up and running of The Autonomy Centre.<\/span><\/h4>\n

The rent was \u00a3680 a month<\/span><\/h4>\n

The bands that played there were numerous but those who appeared on a relatively regular basis included: Rudimentary Peni, Blood And Roses, Part 1, The Sinyx, Anthrax, Assassins Of Hope, Conflict, The Apostles, Cold War, The Mob, What Is Oil?, Twelve Cubic Feet, The S Haters. The Boiled Eggs, Zounds and many more whose names have become immersed in the mists of time. Crass performed only once (under the moniker \u2018Shaved Women\u2019) supported by D.I.R.T.<\/span><\/h4>\n

Apart from live concerts there were book fairs, fanzine conventions, discussion groups, films, debates and political workshops.<\/span><\/h4>\n

Eventually The Autonomy Centre closed down due to the Sunday gigs and donations taken from other weekly events being unable to cover the monthly rent. <\/span><\/h4>\n

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W.Og \/ Dan Apostle<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Janet Hagar \/ Karen Hagar<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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